As a teenager, Joe Hart learned about Dale Carnegie from his father. As a young lawyer, he took Carnegie’s book, ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People’ to heart, eventually taking a course from the influential writer, which made him re-think his career and his future.

These days, Hart is the President and CEO of Dale Carnegie Training. In addition to being a Dale Carnegie graduate, Hart worked closely with the company as a strategic partner for nearly 10 years. He attributes much of his success in business to the Dale Carnegie training he had early in his career.

He’s also the co-author of Take Command with Michael Crom. The description reads, “Take Command offers powerful tools and time-tested methods to help you live an intentional life by transforming how you approach your thoughts, emotions, relationships, and future. Filled with stories of everyday people and based on expert research and interviews with more than a hundred high-performing leaders, Take Command gives you the strategies you need to unlock your full potential and create the life you want.”

In this interview, he talks about Dale Carnegie being one of his first clients, delivering Carnegie’s principles to a younger audience, the importance of pursuing a stoic mindset, how obstacles can make you antifragile, the problem thinking too logically, and how to re-frame your mind for success.

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