Disorder

Ep82. Fool me twice: Shame on me


Listen Later

The Disorderer-in-Chief is now President-Elect. We can’t say we didn’t see it coming. In fact, we predicted on the pod and on the substack that he was favourite to win. But as the post-mortems are bouncing around the internet, we must ask what one factor most led to this outcome: was it the economy, was it woke gone overboard, was it misinformation, was it the anti-incumbency mood? Which factors predominated in making Harris unelectable? And how did the Democratic party allow itself to be fooled again and fight the election on losing issues? And Were Americans fooled by false promises? And duped by misinformation about the issues?  

 

And given Trump’s resounding victory what is next – will he deport millions of Americans, launch a trade war that drives inflation skywards, and give Musk the keys to the regulatory castle to endlessly enrich himself – and will the American electorate care in 4 years’ time? 

 

In this episode, Alex and Jason discuss the major reasons underpinning Trump’s win. Including: the cultural shifts in the United States, the fact that Trump’s criminality and venality may actually be seen by many of his voters as a positive (i.e. they voted for him not despite the fact that he is a convicted felon but BECAUSE OF IT), and how the Republicans were brutally effective in their advertising and narrative crafting. 

 

Amidst all the tumult, the Disorder pods co-hosts attempt to take stock globally and personally. Alex – a Brit turned American – and Jason – an American turned Brit – reflect on their own changing identities and how the result makes them feel in their guts. Plus: listener questions tackle topics like the future of Europe and NATO, could Trump change the constitution, could Trump actually deliver what people want, what about Bitcoin, and whether America could become yet another Russia-style oligarchy. 

 

Subscribe to our Substack: https://natoandtheged.substack.com/ 

 

Show Notes Links 

Read Alex’s Byline Times Article - ‘Democrats Need to Stop Blaming Trump’s Voters and Admit the Party Must Change’: https://bylinetimes.com/2024/11/07/democrats-need-to-stop-blaming-trumps-voters-and-admit-the-party-must-change/  

 

What the Founding Fathers Would Say About Trump’s Win 

“I told you so.”: https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/08/what-the-founding-fathers-would-say-about-trumps-win/?tpcc=editors_picks&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Editors%20Picks%2011092024&utm_term=editors_picks  

 

Trump’s Historic Chief of Staff Pick, and What Elon Musk Wants Now: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/podcasts/trump-chief-of-staff-musk.html  

 

Amsterdam bans protests after 'antisemitic squads' attack Israeli soccer fans:  https://www.reuters.com/world/israels-pm-aware-very-violent-incident-against-israelis-amsterdam-his-office-2024-11-08/  

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

DisorderBy Evergreen Podcasts & Global Enduring Disorder Ltd

  • 3.8
  • 3.8
  • 3.8
  • 3.8
  • 3.8

3.8

86 ratings


More shows like Disorder

View all
The Two Matts by The New European

The Two Matts

72 Listeners

Oh God, What Now? by Podmasters

Oh God, What Now?

204 Listeners

The Bunker – News without the nonsense by Podmasters

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

110 Listeners

Byline Podcast by Adrian Goldberg

Byline Podcast

21 Listeners

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler by Podmasters

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

160 Listeners

The Rest Is Politics by Goalhanger

The Rest Is Politics

3,139 Listeners

Battleground by Goalhanger

Battleground

320 Listeners

The News Agents by Global

The News Agents

972 Listeners

The Rest Is Politics: Leading by Goalhanger

The Rest Is Politics: Leading

962 Listeners

The News Agents - USA by Global

The News Agents - USA

405 Listeners

The Rest Is Money by Goalhanger

The Rest Is Money

257 Listeners

Behind The Lines with Arthur Snell by Arthur Snell

Behind The Lines with Arthur Snell

37 Listeners

The Rest Is Politics: US by Goalhanger

The Rest Is Politics: US

2,223 Listeners

Rory Stewart: The Long History of... by BBC Radio 4

Rory Stewart: The Long History of...

43 Listeners

The Rest Is Classified by Goalhanger

The Rest Is Classified

898 Listeners