A famous Henry Ford quote, “Whether you think you can, or you think you can’t – you’re right,” emphasizes how much attitude determines success or failure.

Pat and Mark sit down with school counselor and marathon Olympic trials hopeful, Caitlin Gaughan, as she shares her story of overcoming setbacks, self doubt and burnout on the way to achieving greatness in distance running. 

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