Mike Michalowicz is a small business and startup expert and the author of Profit First, The Pumpkin Plan and Surge. During this interview Mike discussing small changes businesses can make to yield surprisingly large…or as he says…"colossal" results. Mike and Joe touch on the principles of his new book called Surge and briefly discuss the power of specialization.

(Mike presented a keynote address and a breakout session at Scaling New Heights 2016.)