In the first episode of Not Too Busy To Write, Ali and Penny introduce themselves and how they came to writing and ask the big question - how the hell are they managing to write at the moment? This episode was recorded in London in January 2021 during lockdown (not, as Penny accidentally says, January 2001!!!) and between them Ali and Penny have a whole lot of kids and complications.

Books mentioned

Hamnet - Maggie O'Farrell

The Creative Habit - Twyla Tharp

The Rules Do Not Apply - Ariel Levy

Other links

Maggie O'Farrell interviewed by Stuart Kelly for EIBF

Ali can be found on Instagram @ali_millar_writes and via her website alimillar.com

Penny can be found on Instagram @pennywincer and via her website pennywincerwrites.com