Ceci and Nikki open up about separating spirituality from the systems that once dictated it and how leaving the FLDS changed their view of God, why they no longer believe anyone should stand between a person and their Creator, and what it means to rediscover prayer, peace, and discernment on their own terms.

They share personal stories about unlearning fear-based faith, healing their relationship with God through nature, motherhood, and marriage, and learning to follow intuition instead of outside approval. From deconstructing religion to redefining submission and leadership, this conversation is both raw and redemptive. A reminder that faith and freedom can coexist.

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