On this episode of Narratief, I sit down with Helen Zille for a candid and wide-ranging conversation about her remarkable journey through South Africa’s political and media landscape, her family dynamics, and her newest aspirations.

We unpack her early years as a journalist, including her investigative work exposing the truth behind the death of Steve Biko, and the risks she took in speaking truth to power. From navigating the political terrain around the African National Congress, to her leadership in the Democratic Alliance and Cape Town, and now her campaign ambitions in Johannesburg, Zille reflects on the bold decisions that shaped her career.

Candid, witty, and fiercely passionate as ever, she doesn’t hold back, offering sharp insight into politics, leadership, and the challenges facing South Africa today.