Brent is on the show to tell us everything we need to know about Predator Free 2050 – in fact, he told us so much, we’ve split his interview into two. This is part one. Brent is an expert on predator control and has decades of hands-on field experience. He's herded sea lions, been hounded by kiwi, and caught mohua in his socks. In the world of threatened species conservation, you name it and Brent has done it. Listen and learn.

• The bird sound in this episode is the Northern brown kiwi
• The music used is Let’s Get Down to Business by Cast of Characters
• Brent’s excellent blog series about Predator Free is available on the Conservation Blog