Ceci and Nikki dives into the roots of perfectionism, where it starts, how it shows up, and what it costs. Ceci opens up about growing up in an environment built on constant correction and unreachable standards, and how that shaped the pressure she still feels to do everything just right before allowing herself to rest or connect.

Nikki shares how being misdiagnosed with advanced lung cancer forced her to release control and see how easily life moves on, even when you stop holding it all together.

Together, they talk about unlearning the belief that our worth is tied to productivity, redefining what it means to be “enough,” and creating homes and lives where peace matters more than perfection.