If this conversation seems easy, it's because we are back in the cold waters of our favorite nation. Herein, we dig into the good deeds of Norway's often vexing but always pleasing The 3rd and the Mortal. We attempt to peel away the band's many layers and untangle its knotty evolution. Should you care about cutting-edge Norweird - and if you have stuck with us for all this time, surely you do - please join us on this most titillating conversation.

After all that flugelhorn talk, turns out Jeff mis-horned. It’s actually a crumhorn on Gryphon’s Red Queen to Gryphon Three album. A crumhorn!

Note II:

The Ulver song title we were trying to remember: “I Love You, but I Prefer Trondheim (Parts 1-4) (A. Wiltzie vs. Stars of the Lid remix)” (from First Decade in the Machines, 2003)

Note III:

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Music cited in order of appearance:

“Ring of Fire” (Sorrow, 1994)

“Death Hymn” (Tears Laid in Earth, 1994)

“In Mist Shrouded” (Tears Laid in Earth, 1994)

“Neurosis” (Nightswan, 1995)

“Commemoration” (Painting on Glass, 1996)

“Persistent and Fleeting” (Painting on Glass, 1996)

“Veiled Exposure” [two parts] (Painting on Glass, 1996)

“Stream” (In This Room, 1997)

“Sophisticated Vampires” (In This Room, 1997)

“Did You” (In This Room, 1997)

“Spider” (Memoirs, 2002)

Radical Research is a conversation about the inner- and outer-reaches of rock and metal music. This podcast is conceived and conducted by Jeff Wagner and Hunter Ginn. Though we consume music in a variety of ways, we give particular privilege to the immersive, full-album listening experience. Likewise, we believe that tangible music formats help provide the richest, most rewarding immersions and that music, artwork, and song titles cooperate to produce a singular effect on the listener. Great music is worth more than we ever pay for it.