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Episode 137: The Mindful Marriage—Overcome Pain Cycles and Discover the Surprising Secret to Lasting Love with Ron and Nan Deal


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What’s the secret to healing marriage struggles and fostering deep connection?


In this heartfelt and incredibly vulnerable conversation, Ron and Nan Deal share their journey of rebuilding a marriage that almost unraveled. Drawing from their new book, The Mindful Marriage, they reveal how understanding and managing your own pain cycles can transform relationships. Whether you’re married, single, or navigating any relationship, this episode offers profound wisdom and practical tools for emotional and personal growth.


Episode Highlights:


* Explore one couple's journey through shame, blame, and rediscovering connection.

* Learn 4 Pain Cycles that disrupt relationships and how to break free from them.

* Uncover practical steps to nurture your relationship’s “us-ness” without losing yourself.

* Learn what to do when you're willing to do the work—but your partner isn't.


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Find a full transcript and list of resources from this episode here.


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