In episode 166 of the Magick & Alchemy podcast, hosts Kate Belew and Kristin Lisenby interview Pam Grossman. Pam is a writer, curator, and teacher of magical practice and history. She is also the host of the internationally beloved podcast, The Witch Wave. In this conversation, Pam considers creativity as magic and magic as creativity. She talks about the archetype of the magician and working with the God Hermes as a guide for her new book, Magic Maker: The Enchanted Path to Creativity. Together, three witches celebrate this new book and talk about casting its spell. They also discuss creating with their younger selves, the rituals of writing and word witchery, and how to enchant the sharing of our work.

To learn more and connect with Pam, look for her online @phantasmaphile, buy her books on her website pamgrossman.com, and listen to her on the Witch Wave wherever you get your podcasts!

Sources & Shoutouts:

Magick & Alchemy book list - download here!
Robin Rose Bennett
Normandy Ellis, “Awakening Osiris”
Lynda Barry
Rosarium Blends
Occult Humanities Conference
Jinkx Monsoon

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