Even though things are looking bleak for Rowan, never fear: this week, we have our witchy Mayfair matriarch on the pod! Annabeth Gish, who plays Deirdre Mayfair, and showrunner Esta Spalding join host Amy Nicholson to talk about petty spells, ancestral memory, and episode two’s gutting cliffhanger. And we learn that Esta and Annabeth aren’t just colleagues; like the Mayfairs, they’re also mystically connected through the maternal line.

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