Keith gives Scott props (1:50) and discusses a personal goal before the two discuss Scott catching up on comic work (4:25), dark versus the conveyance of dark in art (11:05), the influences watching over us during creation (20:30) and further discussion on what indie is (26:10).  Keith then makes a plea to the writers out there (39:05) to be mindful of cliches and dialogue tags, which leads to a larger discussion on dialogue (49:40).