There's nothing more contentious than the criteria for the ideal chocolate chip cookie—which is why Chris Morocco spent two months conceptualizing, researching, developing, and testing his new recipe for our BA's Best collection. This week, Adam Rapoport talks with Chris about what went into each decision he made. After that, we air a conversation from our live show a few weeks back where Chris and Claire Saffitz debate the merits and pitfalls of Tiramisú.

Get the recipes from this episode:

BA's Best Chocolate Chip Cookies

Old-School Tiramisú

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