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In this milestone 25th episode, hosts Scott Kuhlman and Chasity Owens kick off their celebration with special AI celebrity "appearances" from Donald Trump, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Kim Kardashian, and Joe Rogan to commemorate reaching this landmark. The podcast has surged in popularity, amassing over 13,000 downloads—a remarkable 30% increase in just 45 days—and approaching 100 five-star ratings on Apple Podcasts.

Scott recaps highlights from the CCAI conference, highlighting Keith Parker's innovative wildland fire demonstration that challenged investigators to determine fire origin points in a controlled environment. Chasity shares her excitement about her upcoming first deposition scheduled for July, while Scott anticipates the Scientific Advisory Work Group (SAW) meeting in Michigan, where investigators present cases for peer review and critical analysis.

The hosts introduce a compelling new segment called "Unbiased Opinion," where they present fire investigation cases without revealing which side they represented. In the inaugural segment, Chasity details a residential fire where the bathroom was determined to be the room of origin, with an improperly labeled wall heater switch accidentally activated by a child who mistook it for a light switch. Listeners are invited to weigh in on where liability should fall—with the homeowner who made the modifications, the contractor who installed them, or the tenant.

Scott shares essential vehicle fire investigation knowledge directly from NFPA 921, including the critical fact that exhaust manifolds can remain hot enough to ignite materials for 30 minutes after a vehicle is turned off, while catalytic converters can stay dangerously hot for up to 90 minutes. He stresses the importance of checking vehicle recalls during investigations, warning that failing to do so could undermine an investigator's credibility.

The episode wraps up with their "Can You Use It in a Sentence?" segment, defining "heuristic" as a problem-solving shortcut, and "We Train Frequently" (WTF) highlighting upcoming fire investigation training opportunities across the country. The hosts look forward to meeting listeners at their booth during the IAAI conference in New Jersey this April.

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