Grey Dynamics

Episode 27: AI Arms Race, Drone Warfare and Cognitive Enhancement with Paul Scharre


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Today I spoke with Paul Scharre, the vice president and director of studies at the Center for New American Security (CNAS). Previously he has worked for the Office of the Secretary of Defense as well as being a team leader in the US Army's 75th Ranger Regiment. Scharre's latest book "Four Battlegrounds: Power in the age of artificial intelligence" discusses some of the bleeding edge issues facing US national security. We discussed the use of drones in Ukraine, limiting China's access to cutting-edge chips, data advantages and much more.


You can find Paul on:


  • Website
  • CNAS
  • Twitter
  • LinkedIn


We spoke about


  • Why AI? (2:18)
  • How being a ranger affects Paul’s view on technology (4:02)
  • What Paul’s work at CNAS is like and their focus (7:19)
  • The impact of the restrictions imposed on China’s ability create to chips (8:55)
  • How chips affect the potential conflict over Taiwan (13:06)
  • How physical and cognitive advancements can allow soldiers to meet new challenges on the battlefield (17:11)
  • The use of drones in Ukraine (25:23)
  • Does China have a data advantage? (34:33)
  • Career Advice (42:07)
  • What will be important in the job market of tomorrow (44:20)
  • Cultural recommendations (48:21)
  • Resources to learn about AI (49:15)


Related Links:


  • Epoch
  • Anthropic
  • Import AI


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