Today I’m joined by Jenni Catron, a leadership coach, author and speaker with a passion to cultivate healthy leaders to lead thriving organizations.  Right out of the gate, Jenni hits us with the powerful (and hard to hear) insight that oftentimes WE are the hardest people to lead. (Ouch!) Jenni and I talk about healthy ways we can lead ourselves, how to know if our team’s culture is good or bad and how to change the culture, whether we are in charge of the organization or not. Whether you're a business leader, pastor, or simply interested in personal growth, this conversation offers valuable lessons on leading yourself and others well. Grab a copy of Jenni’s new book Culture Matters Thanks to our amazing partners on this episode: Vern Eide & First Interstate Bank Vern Eide Motorcars is a growing employee-owned company that offers sales, service, and financing of automotive, motorcycle, and power sports lines, including Acura, Ford, Chevy, GMC, Honda, Hyundai and Mitsubishi brands. Whether you live locally or across the country, visit verneide.com First Interstate Bank has a mission to help people and their money work better together. They do this by ensuring clients can manage their money conveniently wherever they are while also providing the friendly service. They have over 300 locations throughout 14 states! For more information and to find a location near you, visit firstinterstatebank.com Subscribe to The Conversation on YouTube and watch the full interview with Jenny: youtube.com/@adamaweber  Sign up for The Crew: adamweber.com/thecrew