Doree and Elise share the products that the young people in their life have influenced them to try. Then, they invite illustrator and writer Hallie Bateman on to discuss illustrating a book with her mother about getting through her divorce (What to Do When You Get Dumped), the joy of witnessing that immense emotional growth in her mom, what life is like as a working artist, being a mom of twins, and using wit and humor to get through darker times.

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