In this episode, Simon Mundie hosts a conversation between Rupert Spira and Jamie Robson. They discuss artistic expression and spirituality, how true creativity flows effortlessly and joyfully when we are coming from awareness – that is, being, not doing.

Jamie Robson is an award-winning European actor. His quality performances have drawn praise from renowned filmmakers such as Mark Cousins and Aki Kaurismäki. He is an ambassador for a UK homeless charity and patron of two independent film festivals. Simon Mundie is the host of the podcast 'Life Lessons: From Sport and Beyond', which uses sport to explore life's bigger questions.