Ted and Patrick Van Straaten discuss their backgrounds in professional gambling and football media, as well as their experiences in the world of football analytics. They touch on topics such as the early days of using data in football, the importance of age curves in player development, and the challenges of making predictions in public. They also discuss the performances of young players like Kobbie Mainoo and the potential transfer of manuel Ugarte to Manchester United. In this conversation, Patrick and Ted discuss various transfer rumors and player evaluations. They touch on topics such as the potential transfer of Joshua Kimmich, the rebuilding project at Manchester United, the rise of Nico Williams at Athletic Bilbao, the future of Anthony Gordon at Liverpool, and the interest in Calafiore from Arsenal.

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