It's been nearly two years since we've covered Deftones on the podcast, and not a moment too soon, as we go over 2 hours talking about our favorite boys from Sacramento. An album that was great at the time and perhaps has aged even better, we both ponder this being a true turning point in Deftones' career, both from a musical standpoint and considering where we (and a lot of fans) were at in our own lives. It feels like the last album Deftones made in the nu-metal era, and it goes so hard. John waxes poetic about "Minerva", placing it among Deftones' top songs, and Bryan holds a big-time candle for "Battle-Axe". We also discuss how extremely the band was into their own supply at the time, as they declare themselves a better live band than Metallica, discuss turning down a 7-figure deal for the Family Values Tour, and we learned that their work ethic was so loose that Maverick actually fined them for turning this album in late. Oh, and this album also somehow cost $2 million.

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