Recovered from his bout of E. coli, Ryan gives us the full story from his trip to Durban and canceled game versus the Sharks. We're also joined by former Springbok captain John Smit to chat about his stellar career, some highlights including victories at the World Cup and against the Lions, as well as some lowlights like being frozen, starved, and shot at, during the infamous Kamp Staaldraad. We hear about his captaincy techniques with some of the all-time greats, including trying to reign in Bakkies Botha's aggression and who would line out in his all-time greatest Bok XV.

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