VFX veterans Chad Wanstreet and Allan McKay join Chris to talk about their new startup, Version Zero, a company aimed at automating the mundane tasks that bog down visual effects work. Born out of years of frustration with tedious jobs like roto, paint, plate cleanup, and matchmove, Version Zero helps artists and studios save time and focus on the creative parts of production. Chad and Allan share the origin story of the company, which started over Thanksgiving wine and coffee, and explain how their tools are already being used on shows like The Sympathizer and SWAT.

The conversation dives into how Version Zero works, how it differs from other AI-driven tools, and why they have resisted VC funding to stay focused and practical. Chris, Chad, and Allan debate the future of entry-level VFX jobs, the rise of the empowered generalist, and how AI can enable artistry rather than replace it. They also reflect on the resistance to new technology in the industry, the "false economy" of outsourcing, and the importance of developing tools that fit real production needs. It's an honest and thoughtful look at the future of VFX in an AI-driven world and how to build a smarter starting point for artists: version zero.