In this episode Al interviews Annie (AKA Safeguarding Survivor ), she shares her first had experience of living through the foster care system and then becoming involved as a parent. Annie reflects on the challenges that her family has faced and how the system has responded to that. It's an honest and balanced conversation that gives a view into a world that is rarely opened up. 

Scott and Al engage in a their usual chatter as well and talk about houses, Giff Gaff (again) amongst other stuff.