Tom Wheeler and Dave Foley discuss the latest developments in the UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) community, focusing on the compelling testimony of Jake Barber, a former special forces pilot. Barber reports having participated in recoveries of non-human technology and describes a deeply emotional experience with a UAP. The hosts explore the idea of psionic agents—military personnel trained for telepathic interaction with UAPs—and address the government's inconsistent and dishonest responses to ongoing mysterious drone sightings. 

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