In this episode, Owen and Randel interview author, translator Red Pine AKA Bill Porter author of "Road to Heaven: Encounters with Chinese Hermits". From his Counter Point Press bio:

"Red Pine was born in Los Angeles in 1943 and attended graduate school at Columbia University. An acclaimed translator, his published works include four major Buddhist texts: The Lankavatara Sutra, The Platform Sutra, The Diamond Sutra, and The Heart Sutra. He is also the author of Zen Baggage and Road to Heaven: Encounters with Chinese Hermits. He has lived in Taiwan and Hong Kong and has traveled extensively in China, visiting Zen temples and seeking out hermits."

Bill Porter Website

Copper Canyon Press

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