In this week's episode Al interviews Betsy de Thierry and they discuss the roots of shame, types of shame and the impact on many children who have experienced trauma and challenges in their early lives. We've a book to give away that Betsy has written 'The Simple Guide to Understanding Shame in Children: What It Is and How to Help'

We've got a copy to give away so check our twitter feed, here,  for details of how to do that. 

There's a little banter too as we chat about some of the recent events online and the challenges of communicating with those around the adoption triangle. 

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