The one and only Graydon Sheppard joins Lara for this week's Babe? Graydon is respectfully chilling in Canada, as one does. He and Lara chat about Kristin Cavallari, COVID Fakers, inward vs. outward spirals and more! For bonus episodes, visit patreon.com/babepodcast. Feeling like a Babe? You can send questions and stories to [email protected]. You can find Graydon and Lara on IG and Twitter @graydonsheppard and @larzmarie.

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