Cary Schmidt sits down with Ethan Malachuk, pastor of Mount Greylock Baptist Church in MA, for a long-awaited conversation about bivocational ministry. Ethan shares his journey of pastoring while working in the secular world, reflecting on the unexpected blessings, challenges, and spiritual growth that come with this path. Drawing from biblical examples—particularly Paul’s ministry in Corinth, Thessalonica, and Ephesus—the episode affirms bivocational ministry as both legitimate and often necessary, not as a stepping stone, but as a sustainable, God-honoring calling. The conversation encourages pastors and church leaders to rethink traditional models, embrace financial transparency, and prioritize calling and health over convention or pride.