This week, Kate concludes her month-long face cream experiment and gets her moles checked, and Doree survives her first cross-country trip with a baby and gets back to home organizing. Then they welcome ABC News White House correspondent and F35 listener Karen Travers, who shares how she finds moments of calm in the middle of a wild work schedule, tips for friends showing up in moments of crisis, and her favorite NYX makeup products.

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