In this episode, Cary sits down with author Jonathan Williams to unpack one of the most debated and misunderstood passages in the Bible. See how Romans 9 must be read as part of God’s unfolding story: that His Word has not failed, His promises remain, and His heart is for all people. They highlight the dangers of misinterpreting Romans 9, the beauty of God’s consistent faithfulness, and the call for pastors and believers alike to tell the story of the gospel clearly and compellingly.