"You have to take the viewpoint that if the Nurses and the Physical Therapists and the Pharmacists are resisting the idea that you're putting forward, then there's probably something wrong with it, it doesn't work for them, for some reason, and you got to find out what that is..."

This long form conversation is a highlight for TopMedTalk's coverage of The Society for Enhanced Recovery After Cardiac Surgery (ERAS® Cardiac) conference. The conversation covers a wide range of interesting areas, including; the nature of leadership in medicine, the global nature of many of the questions we face, how the internet is changing what we do, what the phrase "better never stops" means, how to take and use feedback and why the patient has to be at the heart of what we do, the importance of "the growth mindset".

Also, discover how one of our guests has learned from his experience becoming a Lieutenant Colonel, US Army Reserves; what can a military mindset tell us about the task we face as advocates of perioperative medicine?

We wrap with a conversation about blood transfusion reduction.

This exclusive chat is only possible thanks to the support of the society, their excellent website is here: https://erasvirtual2021.com/

Presented by Desiree Chappell with her guests Kevin Lobdell, Professor and the Director of Regional Cardiovascular and Thoracic Quality, Education, and Research for Carolinas HealthCare System, Charlotte, NC, USA, as well as the Clinical Professor at the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, NC, USA and Rawn Salenger, Chief of Cardiac Surgery at University of Maryland St. Joseph Medical Center, Assistant Professor of Surgery at the University of Maryland School of Medicine.