Join Tony DUrso as he interviews Estie Rand & Mario Nawfal: Marketing & Bootstrapping Mavens! Estie Rand built a six-figure business with zero dollars in ad-spend in under two years, with a fully virtual team [while raising five kids!] She first discovered her secret scaling sauce at age of 10 when she built her first successful bracelet business. She then paid her way through college with a note taking business - without taking a single note . . . Mario Nawfal bootstrapped his first business at age 22: 7-figures by year 1 and 8-figures by year 2, scaling to over 40 countries. He expanded to other very different businesses, one reaching 7-figures in less than 6 months. Mario went through a series of devastating black swan events almost crippling some of his companies, and survived against all odds . . . Listen to The Tony DUrso Show on VoiceAmerica Influencers Platform every Friday at 2pm Pacific or play on Apple Podcasts.