As drama unfolds across the English Channel, we look at where things stand with the EU's migration policy and examine EU-Australian relations. We also review a revealing new documentary on Emmanuel Macron's international diplomacy efforts and explain why interpreters in the European Parliament are upset with their post-COVID working conditions.

Brussels Playbook co-author Suzanne Lynch hosts this episode, which begins with our French politics reporter Clea Caulcutt giving us the skinny on a new behind-the-scenes documentary on Macron’s diplomatic efforts to stop the war in Ukraine. Clea also explains the political calculus behind Macron's recent Cabinet reshuffle and what it means for Brussels. And POLITICO's Maïa de La Baume joins the discussion to explain the latest tangle between the EU and its all-important interpreters.

Ylva Johansson, European Commissioner for Home Affairs, joins Suzanne on the podcast to discuss the EU's migration policy — what progress has been made since unveiling its plan in September 2020 and where the sticking points remain. She also highlights the challenges for EU countries from taking in over 3 million Ukrainians fleeing war in recent months.

And we welcome a delegation of visitors from Australia to hear about the state of relations with the EU. Stuart Lau, our EU-China correspondent, sits down with Professor Rory Medcalf, head of the National Security College at the Australian National University and a thought leader on the Indo-Pacific, and Professor Duncan Lewis, an imminent military and security expert who has held senior roles in the Australian military and public service, including as former ambassador to the EU, Belgium and NATO.

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