Guests:

Peter Leonard has served as Eurasianet’s Central Asia editor since 2015. Prior to that he worked as Ukraine bureau chief for the Associated Press (AP) news agency. Between 2009 and 2013, he served as Central Asia correspondent for the AP.

Josh Kucera is Eurasianet’s Turkey &Caucasus Editor. He has also has written about the Caucasus and Central Asia for Slate, The New York Times, Al Jazeera America, The Atlantic, and other publications. He is a former staff reporter for Jane’s Defense Weekly and the Associated Press.

Music:

Skinny Puppy, “Warlock,” Rabies, 1989.