Europe’s problem with China spies

Our panellists, Mellissa Fung and Nik Gowing, discuss the recent espionage arrests in Germany, the growing unrest at New York’s most prestigious university and what Taiwan should do with its controversial statues. Also in the programme: is Elon Musk right to tell Australia’s prime minister, Anthony Albanese, that he can’t control the internet? Plus: an interview with the chief investment officer for Hines Europe. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.