My guest this week is Jeff Sebo (@jeffrsebo), director of the NYU animal studies MA program and author of Saving Animals, Saving Ourselves. We discuss his new book, what sort of progress non-human animal ethics is making and what it means for the rolling crises of COVID and climate change.

Jeff's website: https://jeffsebo.net/

Saving Animals, Saving Ourselves: https://global.oup.com/academic/product/saving-animals-saving-ourselves-9780190861018?cc=us&lang=en&

Convocation: Jeff Sebo

Music by GW Rodriguez

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Next week: Non-believer community organizing with Hemant Mehta