Madison’s retirement introduced a whole new structure to the Packer household. While Anya used to bear the brunt of childcare, those roles are now swapped. This creates challenges on both ends that the couple hash out on air. Luckily, today’s guest, Eve Rodsky, can relieve the tension. Eve is dedicated to helping couples split domestic labor evenly–a mission she detailed in her NYT Bestselling book, Fair Play. She explains that regardless of family structure, parents can create a more equal household by treating it like a workplace with boundaries, communication, and structure. Listen to hear all her insights, from the unique problems same-sex couples might encounter to how finding your “unicorn space” can help you stay sane.

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