In this compelling episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with the incredible Evy Poumpouras, former Secret Service Agent, author, and expert in resilience and personal empowerment. Evy shares her journey from protecting presidents to empowering individuals to face their fears and build unshakeable resilience. She provides practical strategies for managing fear, handling stress, and cultivating a mindset that can thrive in any situation.

As a Secret Service Agent, Evy served under Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton. She is the author of "Becoming Bulletproof: Protect Yourself, Read People, Influence Situations, and Live Fearlessly." She is a renowned speaker and media commentator, frequently appearing on networks like CNN, MSNBC, and NBC. Her expertise in body language, lie detection, and personal protection makes her a sought-after expert in the fields of security and resilience.

Evy’s actions as a first responder during the 9/11 terror attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City bestowed her the United States Secret Service Valor Award.

Book: Becoming Bulletproof by Evy Poumpouras

Evy’s Website: evypoumpouras.com

Follow Evy on Social Media: Instagram, Twitter

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 In this episode you will hear:

• I was born in Harlem, New York. My parents were immigrants – they’re Greek. (9:50)

• My dad’s first job in America – he worked for free. (12:04)

• [Growing up] Fun was when the fire department would open up the fire hydrants, and we’d run through them. That was “going to the pool.” (13:57)

• I’ve always trusted my [inner] voice – whatever it is – intuition, instinct. I would listen to it. (18:22)

• I’m brave if I’m in proximity of other brave people. (19:30)

• When I applied to the Secret Service and before that, NYPD, I never asked what am I getting paid? (22:55)

• Everything I was able to do, happened here, and there’s no question in my mind, had I been born in Greece – I say this with all humility, there’s no way I would’ve ever been a secret service agent, there’s no way I would’ve ever been a cop. (39:20)

• After 9/11, the tone changed significantly. [People became] very much supportive of first responders. (42:10)

• [In the 9-11 experience] there were no injuries that day. You either lived, or you died. (59:51)

• That was the saddest part, I thought “I’m gonna die all by myself here – completely alone.” (69:33)

• Those situations show you who people really are. Even training won’t reveal that, until you see who does what, and who’s capable of what. (80:25)

• [Marcus] The best comes out in everybody when we all get hit at the same time. (81:11)

• [Marcus} I think 9-11 recreated a different kind of America. (84:38)

• I never dealt with the victims, I dealt with the suspects and the perpetrators. (99:52)

 • I learned when I was an interviewer, certain countries torture certain ways. (110:04)

• I think our next big attack is gonna be a cyber-attack. (120:23)

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