Listen in as Jamie and Joan share vulnerable moments from each of their families’ recent losses.

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Today we have our first guest, Caroline Lee, who joins Jamie and Joan to discuss death doulas. Caroline offers a brief overview of her Bay Area practice and how she got started in this unique line of work. Similar to giving birth, Caroline describes the routine steps that precede death and her role as a doula in making those transitions as smooth as possible for her patients and their families. She also shares the ethereal aspects that oftentimes accompany someone’s passing. And Jamie asks Joan and Caroline to recount how their bodies feel when they care for a dying body. For such a weighty subject, their answers may be a bit surprising!

You can find out more about Caroline by emailing or following her on social media: @howcarolinecarolines, @death.ed_, TikTok, and [email protected]. Be sure to check out the hospice booklet by Barbara Karnes and the documentary, “The Last Ecstatic Days,” about Ethan Sisser.

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Listen in these voice memos to hear a sweet conversation between Joan and her child, along with several of Jamie’s recent experiences around death.

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We’re back! Join our hosts, Jamie and Joan, as we dive into Season 2’s overarching theme of death. These two bring their easy laughter and levity to a heavy subject as they share their vision for this season. Discussing why death matters, they touch on the inextricable link between death and rebirth, and the unavoidable pain that accompanies us all on this journey of life. We’ll get a sneak peek at future guests and hear a bit about what our hosts have been up to in the off-season.

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Listen in as Jamie shares her feelings on wrapping up Season 1 and Joan describes her much-anticipated concert experience!

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Our season wraps today with our hosts talking about their understanding of death and how it affects our relationships with both our loved ones and our bodies. Joan and Jamie’s perspectives complement each other in unexpected ways as they both share how they have processed the concept of death and dying. Despite the weighty topic, the ladies bring their usual levity and brightness and tease us with what’s in store next!

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Listen in as Jamie shares the joy of feeling settled in while Joan’s family takes on Florida! Be sure to check out Jamie’s workshop, Log Off & Tune In, on SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14th at 2 PM CST.

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Today our hosts explore the principle of our bodies being committed to wholeness and vitality and the powerful impact this belief can have on everything–from each individual to our collective structural systems. Joan shares about her lifelong anxiety and how a shift towards this perspective changed how she experienced anxiousness, both in and out of patient rooms. And Jamie dives deeper into what it means to live a life that feels good and how it’s each of our birthrights to do so.

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Listen in, to hear Joan’s voice memo about a new bodily experience this week and Jamie’s appreciation for Joan’s embodiment progress.

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Twin coughs can’t hold our hosts back as they express gratitude for their respiratory symptoms and dive into the topic of bodies being truth-tellers. They explore the idea that our bodies can’t lie, but sometimes the data they signal can be outdated. Jamie explains how diagnoses can be either helpful doorways or unhelpful destinations. And Joan shares a few stories about how this principle has made practicing medicine more enjoyable.

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