Exploring Washington State

This week on the Exploring Washington State Podcast, we sit down with Steve Pearson—Seattle’s rock and roll legend.

From his iconic days with The Heats to the raucous adventures of the Rangehoods, Steve takes us on a nostalgic journey through the highs, lows, and everything in between of his musical career.

🎶 From Garage Gigs to Stadium Crowds

Steve’s story starts like many legends: with a young kid strumming Beatles tunes and dreaming of a bigger stage. But what happens when those dreams become reality? Steve recounts the serendipitous moments that took The Heats from an obscure garage band to headlining packed clubs and sharing stages with rock royalty. And then there’s that unforgettable gig at the Oregon Jam in front of 79,000 people. How did The Heats handle a live mic malfunction in the middle of their opening song? Let’s say Steve and Don didn’t miss a beat.

💿 The Record That Changed Everything

With tales of late-night rehearsals, fiery live shows, and the iconic Seattle Times article that skyrocketed their fame, Steve shares how The Heats became the band everyone had to see. But what happens when fame fades? Enter the Rangehoods—a band born of grit, rebellion, and a desire to shake things up again.

🎤 New Music, Old Friends

Decades later, The Heats are back. With a new album on the way and reunion shows electrifying fans, Steve reflects on how the band’s music has stood the test of time. Hear firsthand how they recorded 10 songs in just four days, why Steve is still chasing the perfect guitar tone, and why he refuses to become a nostalgia act.

🥧 Plus, Pie or Cake?

Of course, no Exploring Washington State Podcast episode is complete without a bit of fun. Steve’s answer to our signature dessert debate may surprise you—and his reasoning is as rock and roll as it gets.

Curious about RV life, jaw-dropping destinations, and why coffee and bourbon are central to camping? This week’s Exploring Washington State podcast delivers an unscripted chat between host Scott Cowan and RV enthusiast Brooks Smothers.

From navigating the Pacific Northwest’s unparalleled natural beauty to tackling the quirks of rolling earthquakes (a.k.a. RVs), Brooks shares why RVing is the ultimate ticket to adventure.

Dive into hilarious tales of RV maintenance (why do screws randomly appear?) and the life-changing discovery of a $17 bottle of bourbon. Get insider tips on hidden state park gems, the epic road trip that dethroned Highway 395, and a deep dive into the pros and cons of RV living—complete with musings about fifth wheels, cozy bunk beds, and the all-important travel ice machine.

But wait—there’s more! Brooks reveals how Banff left Glacier National Park feeling like second place, why Seattle’s RV show is a must-attend, and how RVing isn’t just about camping; it’s your passport to city escapes, snowboarding weekends, and even competitive cheerleading events. And for the coffee lovers? Tailgate brews with an AeroPress are just the beginning.

Plus, the episode explores Washington State’s unparalleled diversity—from the jagged peaks of Mount Rainier to the rolling hills of the Palouse. Whether you’re a seasoned camper or a first-timer dreaming of life on the road, this conversation is packed with relatable stories, practical advice, and endless inspiration.

And the ultimate cliffhanger? Brooks’ answer to Washington’s most underrated state park will leave you itching to pack your bags. Tune in for laughs, lessons, and a new perspective on the great outdoors. Don’t miss this one!

Welcome to Exploring Washington State! Host Scott Cowan sits down with Dennis Berg, a bartender who’s called the Space Needle his workplace for an astounding 43 years.

In this episode, recorded at Here Today Brewery and Kitchen, Dennis shares decades of stories, insights, and memories from Seattle's most iconic landmark, along with his passion for Washington's vibrant wine and bar scene. Tune in for a lively conversation full of nostalgia, quirky facts, and a peek into Seattle's evolving culture.

Dennis Berg's journey is a testament to the strength of community and the charm of Seattle's unique culture. His stories offer an unparalleled view of Seattle—from the 848 stairs in the Needle to the rooftop experiences most of us can only imagine.

Whether a Seattle native or a first-time visitor, this episode will give you new reasons to appreciate the Needle and Seattle's iconic bar scene.

Prepare for an epic conversation with adventure, history, and quirky insights! In this episode of the Exploring Washington State Podcast, host Scott Cowan reunites with guest Tami Asars to discuss the second edition of her book, Hiking the Wonderland Trail. But this isn't just any trail story—it's a deep dive into one of Washington's most beloved trails, spanning 93 miles around the iconic Mount Rainier.

So, what's new with the Wonderland Trail? 

Is it the same grueling trek it's always been, or have hikers discovered new ways to conquer it? With over a dozen hikes, Tami reveals the triumphs and challenges of trekking this legendary trail. From "fastest known time" attempts to leisurely 14-day adventures with toddlers in tow, the Wonderland is as diverse as the people who hike it.

Ever wonder how many times you can climb 22,000 feet of elevation without losing your mind? Tami has the answer and some sage advice: hike your own hike. But don't be fooled by those short daily mileage plans—every step on the Wonderland Trail demands stamina and respect, as the constant ascents and descents push even seasoned hikers to their limits.

Want to know the history behind this backcountry gem? 

Tami dives into the fascinating origins of the trail, which began as a ranger patrol route in 1915 to combat poachers and wildfires. At one point, there were plans to build a road around Mount Rainier's glaciers! Thankfully, those grand ideas evolved into the trail we know today—a wild escape consistently ranked among the top 10 hikes in the U.S.

And here's a twist: Tami's connection to the Wonderland Trail runs deep—not just as a hiker, but on a personal level, with family memories tied to the park. Her husband even proposed to her there, and she shares a mystical tale of a bear sighting that coincided with her nephew's birth. It's clear this trail isn't just dirt and switchbacks—it's woven into her life story.

If you're considering hiking the Wonderland Trail, Tami's book might be your new best friend. 

With insights on permits (hello, tricky lottery system!), tips for pacing, and ways to avoid common trail pitfalls, she makes planning accessible and even fun. The second edition also offers extras like "stay-a-day" options and wildlife hotspots marked with a fun bear paw icon—perfect for spotting marmots and mountain goats along the way.

Curious about life on the trail? Tami spills the beans on trail culture, from the joys of finding a trail family to the quirks of backcountry etiquette. Ever wondered how hikers communicate without cell service? Spoiler: they rely on apps like FarOut (formerly known as GutHook), which work offline and keep adventurers on track with GPS, comments, and waypoints.

And if you think Tami's adventures end with the Wonderland Trail, think again. She's also a triple crowner, having completed the Pacific Crest Trail, the Continental Divide Trail, and the Appalachian Trail. Each journey brought revelations, but will she hike the PCT again? Please tune in to discover her surprising thoughts on future trails and whether the Pacific Northwest Trail might be next on her list.

As the conversation winds down, Tami shares some of her favorite local spots in North Bend—like Huckstauder Coffee and Rio Bravo for lunch—and hints at exciting new projects, including an upcoming book on trail culture. Will we see Tami's Snoqualmie Region guide hit shelves next year? Only time will tell.

With wit, humor, and a sprinkle of pumpkin spice debate (yes, it gets real), this episode captures the heart of what makes the Wonderland Trail—and hiking—so magical. Ready to disconnect, embrace the wilderness, and maybe even spot a bear or two? This episode will leave you itching to lace up your boots and hit the trail. And who knows? You might find yourself planning a trek sooner than you think.

Meet Mark Phelan, Director of Marketing at the stunning Alderbrook Resort and Spa. If you've ever wondered what it's like to work at one of Washington's most cherished destinations—or if you're seeking inspiration for your next getaway—this conversation is packed with insights, humor, and nostalgia.

Mark kicks things off by sharing his incredible 20-year journey with Alderbrook. In hospitality, staying at one place for two decades is rare—and Mark isn't alone. With a core team of longtime staff, including a server and restaurant manager who've been there just as long, Alderbrook's deep sense of community creates a memorable environment for both staff and guests.

Mark's path to Alderbrook started in an unexpected place: wildlife biology, after earning his degree from the UW. Mark left his native New York City to embrace the PNW and never looked back. His career shift to hospitality may have surprised him. Still, it's clear from this conversation that Alderbrook has become his second home.

The story of Alderbrook is as rich as the experiences it offers. Mark discusses the resort's humble beginnings in 1913 when visitors arrived by steamship and camped on the beach. Fast-forward to 2004, the resort was reborn following a major renovation—and it hasn't stopped evolving. A recent remodel revitalized the resort's public spaces, including the cozy Drinkery and a wine and coffee bar behind the front desk.

Alderbrook has expanded its offerings with miles of hiking trails, a 54-foot yacht (the Lady Alderbrook), and even a secret dining venue hidden deep in the woods. Whether planning a family vacation or a romantic getaway, Alderbrook offers a blend of history, adventure, and comfort.

Mark's favorite time at Alderbrook? The holiday season! Starting the day after Thanksgiving with their annual Holidays on the Canal event, the festivities are magical. Picture Santa Claus arriving on the Lady Alderbrook, followed by fireworks, holiday treats, and family-friendly activities. If that's not enough, Cocoa Cruises with Santa is offered every weekend in December. With this intimate experience, kids and parents can meet the big man in red. 

When winter settles in with its signature drizzle, Alderbrook offers many ways to stay cozy. Guests can unwind by the fire in the lodge, enjoy wellness classes, or indulge in spa treatments. Mark assures us that Alderbrook's quiet season is perfect for those looking to escape the crowds and embrace a slower pace of life.

Mark's enthusiasm shines when he talks about Alderbrook's food scene. From freshly harvested oysters to the famous Grand Marnier prawns, there's something for every foodie to love. Mark hints at an insider favorite: private dinners in the Gathering Grove. In this hidden outdoor dining space, guests enjoy meals surrounded by towering trees and dappled sunlight. Whether you crave local oysters or a quiet fireside meal, Alderbrook's culinary offerings are worth the trip alone.

As 2025 approaches, Alderbrook is gearing up for another exciting year. Mark teases potential new adventures, like themed events, expanded wellness programs, and even unique accommodations like treehouses or houseboats. While nothing is set in stone, it's clear that Alderbrook is constantly evolving to surprise and delight its guests.

Whether you're a longtime fan of the resort or planning your first visit, you'll find something to inspire you in this conversation.

Tune in to learn more about this Pacific Northwest gem and plan your next adventure at Alderbrook Resort and Spa! And don't forget—if Santa keeps returning year after year, maybe you should, too.

In this episode, we talk with Kirk Hanson, Director of Forestry at the Northwest Natural Resource Group, about his journey from Minnesota to Washington State and his work in sustainable forestry.

Kirk has spent years promoting ecologically sound forestry practices that benefit both forest health and landowners’ financial interests. His passion for nature has driven him to create a balance between conservation and economic gain for small forest landowners.

Kirk Hanson’s Forestry Path

Kirk’s love for the outdoors began in Minnesota, where he developed a fascination for nature and gardening. Upon moving to Washington State, he became captivated by the region’s lush forests and their potential. This inspiration led him to shift from public sector work to a nonprofit role at NNRG, where he now helps landowners manage their forests sustainably.

His role focuses on guiding forest owners to balance economic returns with conservation, using methods that promote long-term forest health.

Sustainable Forestry vs. Industrial Forestry

In this episode, Kirk discusses the differences between sustainable forestry and traditional industrial methods. Industrial forestry often relies on clear-cutting, which can damage the environment, deplete biodiversity, and degrade soil quality. Instead, Kirk advocates for perpetual thinning, a practice that selectively removes weaker trees to promote the growth of stronger ones. This method maintains biodiversity, supports forest resilience, and improves the long-term productivity of the land.

Kirk emphasizes that sustainable forestry can be both environmentally friendly and financially viable. Practices like tree pruning, habitat creation, and pre-commercial thinning ensure forests remain healthy while still generating revenue for landowners.

Timberland as a Sustainable Investment

Kirk also explores how timberland can be a sound investment, especially when approached from a sustainable perspective. He recommends purchasing properties with restrictive easements, which lower acquisition costs and guarantee responsible management. This allows for long-term access while maintaining the ecological value of the land. For forest owners, managing their timberland with these principles can offer both privacy and economic returns over time.

FSC Certification

Kirk discusses the importance of FSC (Forest Stewardship Council) certification, which ensures responsible forest management practices. He outlines how small forest landowners can navigate the certification process, which can open doors to new markets and help them sell timber at a higher value. Though challenging, FSC certification is a rewarding way for landowners to support sustainability while profiting from responsible forestry practices.

Looking Ahead: New Projects

Kirk also shares his plans for future projects, including a potential book on permaculture principles in forestry and women’s involvement in forest management. His future work will continue to explore ways landowners can take a more active role in sustainable forestry while blending it with broader ecological practices.

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Cassandra Overby, author of "Home Base Hiking Europe," shares her journey from a business student to a writer inspired by her extensive travels. Rediscovering travel through hiking and connecting with locals, she found it more fulfilling than traditional sightseeing.

Her European travels were extended thanks to remote work opportunities, showcasing technology's flexibility. This experience inspired her book on hiking-based European travel, emphasizing safety and navigation using GPX tracks.

She also discusses practical aspects like comfortable footwear and the challenges of hiking with young children, leading to home-based hiking adaptations in Europe.

Cassandra recounts an accidental European tour with her 14-month-old daughter, which sparked the idea for day hikes between Austrian towns and writing a guide for foot exploration enthusiasts. Her family spent three months in Europe hiking and finalizing routes for the book, which was completed over five months due to parenting responsibilities.

The text highlights Austria's Wachau Valley as a family-friendly destination and promotes walking-based travel as budget-friendly. It also mentions affordable travel options from Seattle to Europe. It offers tips on exploring destinations from a hiker's perspective, including coffee experiences and enjoying German cuisine, particularly in Bavaria.

Cassandra collaborated with Rick Steves on hiking in Europe, who became her mentor and wrote the foreword for her book. Her book is available in stores and online, with plans for more European hiking guides. They run a website for planning hiking itineraries and offer travel consultations. Cassandra enjoys hiking in Snohomish, Washington, with her family and group, engaging in local activities like mini-golf, and recommending dining spots. She prefers pie over cake and cherishes exploring natural beauty while appreciating familiar places anew.

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Since our last conversation, Jesse's been hard at work restoring unique properties across Washington and beyond, bringing a mix of rustic charm and modern convenience to places you might never expect. From fixing up a yacht that doubles as an office to building bridges—literally—at his Pacific Dunes property, Jesse shares how he's redefining what hospitality can look like.

To kick things off, Jesse updates us on his famous yacht, which he uses as a floating office. After a complete restoration, it's still going strong, and I even took a trip to Poulsboo for some relaxation. As Jesse says, it's a labor of love—a new engine, a rebuilt transom, and the whole deal. It's clear that for him, hospitality isn't just about running hotels or lodges. It's about creating experiences; sometimes, that means turning a boat into your workspace!

Scott's questions about Jesse's Pacific Dunes property, and Jesse is more than happy to give us the scoop. They've been adding to the "vintage vibe" of the place with a new coffee shop, a gift shop, and even a beer garden. Plus, there's that bridge Scott had to ask about. It's not just a metaphor—Jesse and his team really built a bridge to give guests easy access to the beachfront. Instead of a long walk, it's a quick 5-minute stroll to get your toes in the sand.

Details like these make Pacific Dunes more than just a place to stay. Jesse's vision for the property is all about offering guests more than just a room—it's about giving them an unforgettable experience. Whether sipping coffee at the new shop or enjoying a local beer in the garden, it's clear that Pacific Dunes is becoming a destination in its own right.

But it's not just about yachts and bridges. Jesse's been hard at work expanding the accommodations at Pacific Dunes, too. They've added tiny homes, glamping tents, and more RV stalls, making it the perfect spot for group events like weddings. And it's not just about sleeping under the stars—guests can rent out an entire "glamping village," combining the best of both worlds: the comfort of private lodging with the charm of an outdoor adventure

Hearing about JET Hospitality's growth is one of the most exciting parts of the conversation. Jesse shares that they've expanded beyond Washington into states like Wyoming, Utah, and Idaho, with 10 locations across five states. But don't worry, Washington State still holds a special place in Jesse's heart, and he hints that there are always new projects on the horizon in the Evergreen State.

Jesse's passion for restoring and revitalizing old properties is contagious. Whether he's turning a forgotten motor inn into a boutique roadside stop or transforming a historic haunted hotel in Wyoming, he's all about preserving history while giving it a modern twist. His latest purchase, the Virginian Hotel, comes with a rich history—and a few friendly ghosts, according to Jesse!

So, what's next for Jesse and his team? Plenty. JET Hospitality is diving into new territory with its "motor inn" concept, refreshing old roadside motels and adding modern touches like electric vehicle charging stations and on-site coffee trucks. The idea is to compete with major hotel brands while offering something that feels more personal and unique. Jesse says they're not afraid to tackle projects others might shy away from, making JET Hospitality's portfolio so exciting.

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Exploring Washington: Autumn Photography, Iconic Landscapes, and Life on a Boat

Washington State is a photographer's paradise, offering a rich diversity of landscapes—from the North Cascades to the waters of Puget Sound. Photographer Lisa Mize captures this beauty while living full-time on a boat. In a recent Exploring Washington State Podcast episode, Lisa shared her photography journey and unique lifestyle.

Lisa's passion for photography began with family photos during the "film days," capturing memories of her children. As she started hiking Washington's trails, her focus shifted to landscapes. She transitioned from film to digital with a Pentax camera, later embracing Nikon's mirrorless cameras for their efficiency and advanced features. Despite her professional gear, Lisa often uses her iPhone, saying, "The camera you have with you is better than no camera."

Autumn is Lisa's favorite season for photography, and her work has been featured on Explore Washington State. Lisa captures stunning fall road trip scenes from Mount Baker's Artist Point to the North Cascades Highway. One standout shot is of a Japanese maple tree at Kubota Garden, a photo that has captivated her audience. Her secret? Patience, persistence, and finding the right light.

Lisa is passionate about teaching others, offering workshops that take photographers to some of Washington's most scenic spots. Her workshops focus on helping participants find their unique compositions. She emphasizes that great shots take time and practice. Only two out of 30 photos of the Kubota Garden tree stood out as exceptional. Her advice for beginners: Don't be discouraged by the numbers.

Lisa has lived on a 42-foot powerboat in Puget Sound for the past four years. While boat life presents challenges like cold winters and small hot water tanks, the breathtaking views of the Olympic Mountains and sunsets make it worthwhile. Lisa cherishes her lifestyle, which complements her passion for capturing Washington's natural beauty.

As Lisa continues to explore and photograph Washington's landscapes, she remains dedicated to sharing her experiences through her workshops and personal work. Her advice? "Just go and see." Whether you're an aspiring photographer or a seasoned traveler, Washington's beauty awaits you.

With her camera and adventurous spirit, Lisa reminds us to appreciate the beauty around us—whether on a hike through the Cascades or from the deck of a boat in Puget Sound.

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Our guest, Chris Baldwin, is a true craftsman. As a designer and artist by profession, Chris has always had a passion for branding, commercial art, and graphic design. His journey led him to Whidbey Island, where he combined his love of coffee with his background in design and marketing to create Island Time Coffee.

Chris's love for coffee and design naturally led to the founding of Island Time Coffee on Whidbey Island. He explained the brand concept through a Venn diagram, showcasing what makes his coffee unique—from its intense blends to the island lifestyle it represents.

Launching a new brand during a pandemic comes with its set of challenges. Chris faced significant supply chain issues, with costs skyrocketing shortly after his product hit the market. However, he adapted by scaling back and focusing on growing the business organically.

As of September 2024, Island Time Coffee has expanded to about 40 retail locations, particularly thriving in small, privately owned boutique stores. Recently doubling his footprint, Chris anticipates solid growth in these new stores over the next year.

Chris plans to maintain the brand's purposeful nature, focusing on the Greater Seattle and Puget Sound region and potentially expanding to the San Juan Islands. He stressed the importance of remaining true to the island lifestyle that defines Island Time Coffee.

Aside from coffee, Chris indulged in artistic endeavors through art cars during his time in Seattle. These cars, covered in toys and artistic materials, were a hit at events like the Fremont Fair. Even though he faced challenges with ferry inspections, the experience added a unique twist to his journey.

Chris is passionate about giving back to the community. He collaborates with Orca Network, a nonprofit focused on whale awareness. By donating a portion of his coffee sales and using authentic whale photos, Chris combines his business with meaningful contributions to local causes.

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