Returning guest Dave Roth got on the couch with us for The Shrink Next Door, the Apple TV adaptation of the Wondery podcast of the same name. We discussed the pacing, whether the show needed more jokes and less attention to production-design details, and the very obviously not New York light on the outdoor sets. Did true-crime "expert" Buntsy feel differently from the rest of the panel? Later, we went Around The Dial with Yellowjackets, SNL, Evil, and The Curse Of Von Dutch before popping on our fezzes for a Lodge 49 Canon submission from Lisa. Annie Live! won, Terry Crews lost, and we tried to keep it 100 with some creative arithmetic in Game Time. Bail on your second bar mitzvah early and listen to an all-new Extra Hot Great.

GUESTS

👤 David Roth

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 😶‍🌫️ The Shrink Next Door

Around The Dial: 🐝 Yellowjackets

Around The Dial: 🌃 Saturday Night Live

Around The Dial: 😈 Evil

Around The Dial: 🧢 The Curse Of Von Dutch

The Canon: 🏆 Lodge 49 S01.E03: Corpus

Winner & Loser: 👍 Alan Toy

Winner & Loser: 👎 Terry Crews

Game Time: 🧠 Keeping It 100

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 381 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🏓 David J. Roth at Defector.com

🦜 The Distraction podcast

🤶 The It's Christmastown podcast with Jeb Lund

🐨 Tara on Frayed S02 for Decider

🌃 Tara's SNL recap at VF

🗽 The Great American Pop Culture Quiz Show Patreon

🧢 Sarah's Von Dutch review on Best Evidence

🎧 Subscribe to Quaid In Full for even more Roth and Lund in our S05 finale

The latest high school-based '80s sitcom to get a revival is HBO Max's 2021 take on Head Of The Class, so Daniel MacEachern -- a fan of the original in its day -- has joined us to talk about whether it's a pass or fail! Around The Dial takes us through Season 2 of Frayed, an update on Married At First Sight, Deutschland 89, Yellowstone, The Great British Bake Off (or Baking Show, depending on where you are), Project Runway, and the findings of the TV Holiday Corridor Committee. Tara explains why she is NOT a crackpot to think Rick was funnier before his lines got subtitled on Big Mouth. Danny presents the Ted Lasso episode "Trent Crimm: The Independent" for the Canon. Then we name the week's Winner and Loser and close out with a Game Time that has us contemplating celebrity mortality. Get out your notebook -- do kids still take those to class?! -- and listen!

GUESTS

👤 Daniel MacEachern

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 👩‍🏫 Head Of The Class

Around The Dial: 🐨 Frayed

Around The Dial: 👰‍♀️ Married At First Sight

Around The Dial: 🇩🇪 Deutschland 89

Around The Dial: 👄 Big Mouth

Around The Dial: 🥐 The Great British Bake Off

Around The Dial: 👠 Project Runway

Around The Dial: 🎁 TV Holiday Corridor Committee Findings

I Am Not A Crackpot: 🤪 Rick Was Funnier Before Big Mouth Started Subtitling Him

The Canon: 🏆 Ted Lasso S01.E03: Trent Crimm: The Independent

Winner & Loser: 👍 Fantasy Island (2021)

Winner & Loser: 👎 Ingo Rademacher

Game Time: 🧠 Dead? Simpsons? Both? Neither?

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 380 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🐦 Daniel MacEachern on Twitter

🚽 "TV Producer Steven Bochco says he fired lead actor from Murder One because one particular bathroom habit made him an hour late for work EVERY DAY" at DailyMail.com

💄 Listen To Sassy on Patreon

🗽 The Great American Pop Culture Quiz Show on Patreon

📰 CBC Newfoundland and Labrador

🛑 "Please Stop The Great British Baking Show From Becoming The Great British Science Fair" at VanityFair.com

🌴 The Again With This podcast

🎧 Quaid In Full on Patreon

Your co-hosts weren't feeling that psyched about any of this week's TV premieres -- sorry, Judy Justice on IMDbTV -- so we invited our Patreon supporters to pitch and then vote on TV episodes for us to discuss under the rubric Fall Forcenings. Thus we are going in on L.A. Law's "Good To The Last Drop" with guest Adam Grosswirth, who originally watched it as a pre-teen and...learned a lot about hysterectomies and their possible side effects? Around The Dial takes us through Insecure, Queens, The Big Leap, The Good Wife, and The Good Fight. Adam makes the case for Max Headroom's series premiere, "Blipverts," to be inducted into The Canon. Then after an extra-spooky Winner and Loser, it's on to a Game Time that doesn't overstay its welcome. Look out: it's a new episode of Extra Hot Great!

GUESTS

👤 Adam Grosswirth

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 👩‍💼 L.A. Law S05.E16: Good To The Last Drop

Around The Dial: 🧍🏽‍♀️ Insecure

Around The Dial: 👸🏽 Queens

Around The Dial: 🤸‍♂️ The Big Leap

Around The Dial: 🤦‍♀️ The Good Wife

Around The Dial: 👊 The Good Fight

The Canon: 🏆 Max Headroom S01.E01: Blipverts

Winner & Loser: 👍 Steve Buscemi

Winner & Loser: 👎 Ted Lasso

Game Time: 🧠 One-Season Wonders

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 379 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🐦 Adam Grosswirth on Twitter

☕️ "Good To The Last Drop" on Dailymotion

🚽 "TV producer Steven Bochco says he fired lead actor from Murder One because one particular bathroom habit made him an hour late for work EVERY DAY" on DailyMail.com

🌴 The latest Again With This podcast, featuring Heather Cocks and Jessica Morgan, aka The Fug Girls

🐷 The Muppeturgy podcast

🏎 Baffled! on YouTube

👾 "Live And Direct: The Definitive Oral History Of 1980s Digital Icon Max Headroom" at The Verge

Netflix's new animated series Inside Job posits a world in which basically every conspiracy theory you've ever seen on Facebook is real; John Ramos returns to discuss whether it's worth exposing the NSA to it via the recording device that's always running in your phone! Around The Dial takes us through the third seasons of Succession and You, and the second season of We're Here. Tara takes a hard stance on when holiday episodes should air. Erica makes a case for Brooklyn Nine-Nine's "Casecation" to be inducted into the Nonac. Then we crown the week's Winners and Loser before getting into a Non-Regulation Game Time that's a little two-dimensional. Take a break from monitoring your Bigfoot traps and join us!

GUESTS

👤 John Ramos

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 👽 Inside Job

Around The Dial: 🧐 Succession

Around The Dial: 🫵 You

Around The Dial: 🗺 We're Here

I Am Not A Crackpot: 🤪 Your Holiday Episode MUST Air Before The Holiday!!!

The Nonac: 🤮 Brooklyn Nine-Nine S06.E12: Casecation

Winner & Loser: 👍 Stir Wirz!

Winner & Loser: 👎 Debra Messing

Game Time: 🧠 Tube Toons

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 378 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🐦 John Ramos on Twitter

✍️ Tara's author page at Decider

👃 The Sweet Smell Of Succession podcast

🤬 Q: Into The Storm on HBO Max

Our patron Eric Akawie challenges us to name shows that got Wrong Spinoffs, and to correct history by proposing spinoffs that would have been Right!

Sarah asked: What about creating Star Trek: Lower Decks-style shows for other series? Which low-powered employees from an existing TV show would make for a good spinoff?

Lots of spinoffs involve giving side characters the spotlight -- your Rhodas, your Lous Grant. What Lex Ann specifically wants us to imagine are spinoffs that center the CHILDREN of the ancestor series: and we've delivered!

So maybe MAYBE, Dave didn’t read last week’s EEHG correctly and instead of the prompt being a spinoff featuring children of a show, he thought the challenge was to develop a spinoff OF a spinoff. So that’s what we’re doing this week because the idea has been rattling in his head.

TOPICS

Lead Topic: ❌ That's Just Wrong

Lead Topic: 🪫 The Lowest Of Decks

Lead Topic: 👥 Second-Generation Spinoff

Lead Topic: 😵‍💫 Spin Cycle

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 377 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

We knew Cyd, like Tara and Dave, had just done a rewatch of the original-flavor CSI, so we were really glad she could join us to break down CBS's new reboot of its network-changing old favorite (which...only went off the air like six years ago?). We talked about whether we'll keep watching for "The New Class" after l'affaire Hodges gets resolved, when exactly the show thinks it is culturally, and what's going on with the sloppy editing. Then we went Around The Dial with Call The Midwife, Legends Of The Hidden Temple, grief-therapy sitcom recs, and Buried (with another Lauer rant from Buntsy) before Cyd was NOT a crackpot about shows using consultants on "hacker" and other internetty storylines. Chris Billig tried to get all our exercise balls up the hill in support of his Taskmaster Canon submission before Mlle. Caroline won, Netflix lost, and we put a foot in two worlds with a Game Time about reboots. Make sure to leave a fingerprint on the "play" button; it's an all-new Extra Hot Great.

• CSI: Vegas
• ATD: Call The Midwife
• ATD: Legends Of The Hidden Temple
• ATD: Seinfeld
• ATD: Brooklyn 99
• ATD: Buried
• IANAC: Web And/Or Computer Consultants
• The Canon: Taskmaster S02.E01: Fear Of Failure
• Winner and Loser of the Week
• Game Time: Getting The Reboot

• Follow Cyd on Twitter
• Or follow her here
• Cyd's drawing Instagram
• Tara's William Petersen piece at Decider
• Sarah's review of Buried at Best Evidence
• Taskmaster season playlists on YouTube
• Photo: Sonja Flemming / CBS Broadcasting Inc.

• Tweet at us @ExtraHotPodcast on Twitter
• We are @ExtraHotGreat on Instagram

The EHG gang have been recording this podcast for almost a decade now. In podcasting terms, that makes us positively Methuselahian. Since the start of EHG, our listeners have asked if we had a tip jar or donation system and we'd look at each other and say surely that is a joke, people don't pay other people to do podcasts. We'd email them back "Ha ha ha, good one, Chet" and go about our business. Now we are told this is a real thing that real nice people do. Value for value? In today's topsy turvy world? It's madness but that good kind of madness, like when you wake up at 3:15am and clean your house. Or something. In all seriousness, we are humbled by your continued prodding to get a Patreon page up for EHG and here it is! Extra Hot Great on Patreon

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We knew Cyd, like Tara and Dave, had just done a rewatch of the original-flavor C.S.I., so we were really glad she could join us to break down CBS's new reboot of its network-changing old favorite (which...only went off the air like six years ago?). We talked about whether we'll keep watching for "The New Class" after l'affaire Hodges gets resolved, when exactly the show thinks it is culturally, and what's going on with the sloppy editing. Then we went Around The Dial with Call The Midwife, Legends Of The Hidden Temple, grief-therapy sitcom recs, and Buried (with another Lauer rant from Buntsy) before Cyd was NOT a crackpot about shows using consultants on "hacker" and other internetty storylines. Chris Billig tried to get all our exercise balls up the hill in support of his Taskmaster Canon submission before Mlle. Caroline won, Netflix lost, and we put a foot in two worlds with a Game Time about reboots. Make sure to leave a fingerprint on the "play" button; it's an all-new Extra Hot Great.

GUESTS

👤 Cyd

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 🎰 C.S.I.: Vegas

Around The Dial: 👩‍⚕️ Call The Midwife

Around The Dial: 🗿 Legends Of The Hidden Temple

Around The Dial: 🥨 Seinfeld

Around The Dial: 👮🏽‍♀️ Brooklyn Nine-Nine

Around The Dial: 🪦 Buried

I Am Not A Crackpot: 🤪 Computer Consultants

The Canon: 💌 Taskmaster S02.E01: Fear Of Failure

Winner & Loser: 👍 Mlle. Caroline

Winner & Loser: 👎 Dave Chappelle and Netflix

Game Time: 🧠 Getting The Reboot

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 376 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🐦 Follow Cyd on Twitter

🐦 Or follow her here

📸 Cyd's drawing Instagram

🧬 Tara's William Petersen piece at Decider

🪦 Sarah's review of Buried at Best Evidence

💌 Taskmaster season playlists on YouTube

The SCU (Sopranos Cinematic Universe) expands with the release, in theaters and on HBO Max, of the prequel film The Many Saints Of Newark, and Rolling Stone Senior TV Critic/certified Sopranologist Alan Sepinwall is here to discuss it with us! Around The Dial takes us through The Problem With Jon Stewart, Our Kind Of People, Maid, and the Working Girl TV series adaptation. Rebecca uses her Extra Credit topic to have us remove and recast disgraced stars from their TV vehicles to make them palatable again. Alan presents the Columbo episode "An Exercise In Fatality" for induction into the Canon. Then after naming the week's Winner and Loser, we're pulling off the turnpike for a New Jersey-themed Non-Regulation Game Time! Find your pew and join us!

GUESTS

👤 Alan Sepinwall

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 🔫 The Many Saints Of Newark

Around The Dial: 🫠 The Problem With Jon Stewart

Around The Dial: ☺️ Our Kind Of People

Around The Dial: 🧹 Maid

Around The Dial: 👩‍💼 Working Girl

Extra Credit: 🍎 Bad Apples

The Canon: 🕵🏻‍♂️ Columbo S04.E01: An Exercise In Fatality

Winner & Loser: 👍 IATSE

Winner & Loser: 👎 Katie Couric

Game Time: 🧠 Back To The Garden State

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 375 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🐦 Alan Sepinwall on Twitter

🔫 "The Ultimate Sopranos Insider's Guide to The Many Saints of Newark" on RollingStone.com

📚 The Sopranos Sessions on AbramsBooks.com

🫠 Alan's review of The Problem With Jon Stewart at RollingStone.com

🌴 The Again With This podcast on Patreon

👁 Alan's podcast Too Long; Didn't Watch

👩‍💼 The Working Girl TV series adaptation on YouTube

🐉 The Quaid In Full podcast episode on Dragonheart

😬 "I Was Proud to Do This Work With Him: David Simon on James Franco Controversy" at Rolling Stone

🍭 Paul Rudd's candy store, Samuel's Sweet Shop

✊ "As IATSE Workers Go Public, Pressure Mounts on Studios Amid Looming Strike" in The Hollywood Reporter

We're so grateful Nick Rheinwald-Jones jumped through a green Jurassic vagina with us to watch La Brea, NBC's latest attempt at a sci-fi dystopia -- but this one involves a sinkhole in "Los Angeles," were-dogs, and Jon Seda. Should you watch the pilot just for the dumb crappy fun of it all? Or is it too stuck in that 2006 "we can be the next Lost" mindset to be enjoyable? We definitely enjoyed going Around The Dial with Controlling Britney Spears, The Big Leap, Being James Bond, Tea With The Dames, Teen Mom: Young & Pregnant, and Squid Game, and in related news, Dave was not a crackpot about flashbacks to events in the same episode. David Ellis Dickerson challenged us to pick a show bible a la the Star Trek: TOS episode "A Piece of the Action," and base an entire future society on it, and then Nick challenged our conceptions about second episodes of series when he pitched Episode 02 of Succession for the Canon. Bergeron won, Messing lost, and the Game Time season came down to a single letter. Take a nip off that flask and tell the government about your visions: it's an all-new Extra Hot Great!

GUESTS

👤 Nick Rheinwald-Jones

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 🦕 La Brea

Around The Dial: 🕹 Controlling Britney Spears

Around The Dial: 🤸‍♀️ The Big Leap

Around The Dial: 🔫 Being James Bond

Around The Dial: 🫖 Tea With The Dames

Around The Dial: 🤰 Teen Mom: Young & Pregnant

Around The Dial: 🦑 Squid Game

I Am Not A Crackpot: 🤪

Extra Credit: 📖 Show Bible

The Canon: 🏆 Succession S01.E02: Shit Show At The Fuck Factory

Winner & Loser: 👍 Tic-Tac-Dough

Winner & Loser: 👎 Debra Messing

Game Time: 🧠 One Letter Off

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 374 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🐦 Follow Nick Rheinwald-Jones on Twitter

🕵🏼‍♂️ Nick's immersive-theater project, Spy Brunch

⛳️ Tara's Holey Moley piece at Defector

📰 The Best Evidence newsletter

📷 Photo: Sarah Enticknap / NBC

Nearly two years after its first-season premiere, The Morning Show is back on AppleTV+, and its #1 fan Christina Tucker has returned to talk about all the delightful madness! Around The Dial takes us through The Premise, Doogie Kamealoha, M.D., and the new seasons of Sex Education and Law & Order: Special Victims Unit. Amelia asks us to poach good characters from bad shows and put them together in a new project. Tara presents The Other Two's very recent "Chase Gets Baptized" for Canon consideration. Then after naming the week's Winner and Loser, we wrap up with a pilot-based Game Time that leaves us all in a tailspin. Pour yourself a coffee with Red Bull and listen!

GUESTS

👤 Christina Tucker

TOPICS

Lead Topic: 🌅 The Morning Show

Around The Dial: 🔲 The Premise

Around The Dial: 👩🏽‍⚕️ Doogie Kamealoha, M.D.

Around The Dial: 🍆 Sex Education

Around The Dial: 🧑‍⚖️ Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

Extra Credit: 😉 Only The Good Ones

The Canon: 🏆 The Other Two S02.E05: Chase Gets Baptized

Winner & Loser: 👍 Baltimore Ravens

Winner & Loser: 👎 Edie Falco

Game Time: 🧠 Pilot Error

NOTES

🗒 Full episode notes can be found on the episode 373 page on ExtraHotGreat.com

🐦 Christina Tucker on Twitter

🍙 Christina's The Morning Show recap newsletter Chaos! It's The New Cocaine

🟠 Tara on James Wolk and Ordinary Joe at Decider

⁉️ The Wait, Is This A Date? podcast

👩‍❤️‍💋‍👩 Christina at Autostraddle

📚 15% off for EHG listeners at Exhibit B. Books

🏛 Backstairs At The White House on Wikipedia