In must-win Michigan, Joe Biden is expected to handily win the primary election today. But the numbers — specifically the number of Democrats who vote “undeclared”— could provide some insight into one of the president’s weak spots come November. Playbook deputy editor Zack Stanton, freshly returned from a reporting trip in the Wolverine state, offers some insight into the importance of the race, and what the locals are saying about 2024.

Playbook co-author Ryan Lizza interviews Playbook deputy editor Zack Stanton.