Talking Europe

Fighting disinformation is a daily struggle, former EU commissioner Mariya Gabriel says


Listen Later

Social media platforms play an increasingly important role in election campaigns, as the first round of the Romanian presidential election – in which a NATO-sceptic populist came out on top – amply demonstrates. Our guest is Mariya Gabriel, a former EU Commissioner for the Digital Economy and Innovation, who is well placed to discuss social media and disinformation, particularly in the context of southeastern Europe. We also talk to her about the new EU Commission's announcement of a "Competitiveness Compass" initiative, and the rolling political crisis in Gabriel's home country, Bulgaria.

Asked about Calin Georgescu's win in the first round of the presidential election in Romania, Gabriel says: "Romania is an important state for the European Union and for NATO. But we really need to draw some lessons from the role of social media [in the election]." She notes: "There are questions about the role of TikTok. Speaking as former EU Commissioner on Digital Economy, it is important not to lose digital platforms as channels for citizens to engage with political debate. But we have to make sure that the platforms respect standards, and transparency of the algorithms.”

"Populist demagogues are using fear and disappointment to increase their support," Gabriel goes on. "We have to pay attention to this, because in Bulgaria and in Romania, we have people that are instrumentalising these fields. That's why the other parties that are pro-European, pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine, they have to innovate in their narratives, in their actions, to engage with citizens based on facts and very clear positions. This is an everyday struggle, and we can’t ignore these new realities."

We also discuss the geopolitical direction of the new EU Commission, which was approved by the European Parliament in a vote on November 27. Is President Ursula von der Leyen's "Competitiveness Compass" really a new initiative, or simply a re-packaging of existing commitments?

"What I see is that all the efforts that we made during the last five years are now bearing fruit. There is more and more awareness of how important it is to tackle the innovation gap," Gabriel responds. "Let's not forget that Europe in the 1990s was 25 percent of the global economy, and now it’s 16 percent. I very much welcome the first announced initiative by the European Commission. Of course I would like to now see concrete proposals. What about the budget? What about the cooperation between universities and businesses? What about access to data or skills for small productivity firms, and cooperation with the big corporations? What about the mobility of researchers, and attracting talent in Europe? We need to think bigger. And we need much more rapid action."

In October, Bulgarians were asked to vote for the seventh time in four years because of the failure of the country's political parties to agree on forming a coalition government. We put it to Gabriel that public trust in politics must be rock bottom.

"My message is very clear. Bulgaria does not have time to lose, so it's up to all the politicians to be responsible and to stop wasting time," she answers.

"Unfortunately, at this stage, I don't see real progress. And this is something that makes me fear. What about other political forces, like what happened in Romania, that will use this vacuum to play their games? Because let's not forget, Bulgaria is strategically important for the European Union. We are at the crossroads of so many crucial topics, from energy to food and protection of borders. So I think that, more than ever, we need politicians that take their responsibility [seriously] and work for the benefit of our citizens."

Programme prepared by Luke Brown, Oihana Almandoz and Perrine Desplats

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Talking EuropeBy FRANCE 24 English

  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5

4.5

2 ratings


More shows like Talking Europe

View all
The Documentary Podcast by BBC World Service

The Documentary Podcast

1,842 Listeners

Inside Europe by DW

Inside Europe

186 Listeners

Witness History by BBC World Service

Witness History

963 Listeners

Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes by ECFR

Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes

99 Listeners

The Inquiry by BBC World Service

The Inquiry

748 Listeners

Europe now by FRANCE 24 English

Europe now

5 Listeners

arts24 by FRANCE 24 English

arts24

4 Listeners

Focus by FRANCE 24 English

Focus

4 Listeners

Business by FRANCE 24 English

Business

4 Listeners

The World This Week by FRANCE 24 English

The World This Week

39 Listeners

Reporters by FRANCE 24 English

Reporters

4 Listeners

Tech 24 by FRANCE 24 English

Tech 24

4 Listeners

You are here by FRANCE 24 English

You are here

5 Listeners

The 51% by FRANCE 24 English

The 51%

1 Listeners

The Debate by FRANCE 24 English

The Debate

22 Listeners

People & Profit by FRANCE 24 English

People & Profit

0 Listeners

Inside the Americas by FRANCE 24 English

Inside the Americas

6 Listeners

Access Asia by FRANCE 24 English

Access Asia

0 Listeners

Down to Earth by FRANCE 24 English

Down to Earth

0 Listeners

EU Confidential by POLITICO

EU Confidential

102 Listeners

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture by Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

151 Listeners

Americast by BBC News

Americast

742 Listeners

The Rachman Review by Financial Times

The Rachman Review

137 Listeners

Press Review by FRANCE 24 English

Press Review

0 Listeners

Banlieue Project by FRANCE 24 English

Banlieue Project

1 Listeners

Eye on Africa by FRANCE 24 English

Eye on Africa

5 Listeners

The Observers Direct by FRANCE 24 English

The Observers Direct

0 Listeners

The Observers by FRANCE 24 English

The Observers

0 Listeners

Talking France by The Local France

Talking France

60 Listeners

Politics Weekly America by The Guardian

Politics Weekly America

207 Listeners

The Rest Is Politics by Goalhanger

The Rest Is Politics

3,289 Listeners

The Foreign Affairs Interview by Foreign Affairs Magazine

The Foreign Affairs Interview

422 Listeners

American Friction by Podmasters

American Friction

48 Listeners

DW Berlin Briefing - Inside German politics by DW

DW Berlin Briefing - Inside German politics

18 Listeners