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A discovery meeting can either feel like a sales conversation or the beginning of a relationship where a prospect feels genuinely understood. Today's guest believes the difference comes down to how advisors lead the conversation, listen to what prospects are actually saying, and guide them towards the next step.
Chris Smith is the founder of PSBLTY, a brand strategy, design, and implementation firm working with financial advisors, teams, and firms. In this episode, Chris shares how leadership shapes the discovery process, why advisors should spend most of the initial meeting listening and reflecting a prospect's concerns back to them, and what can create a stronger path to a second meeting. You'll also learn how to structure that second meeting around planning insights and strategy without overwhelming the prospect, the scripts Chris uses to invite prospects to become clients, and how his background in commercial real estate shaped his approach to prospect communication.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/512
What if growing your financial planning firm didn't have to mean giving up the lifestyle you worked so hard to create? For today's guest, building a successful advisory firm has meant finding ways to grow while protecting her time, energy, and freedom.
Ashlee deSteiger is co-owner of Gunder Wealth Management, an RIA based in Birmingham, Michigan, that oversees approximately $150 million in assets under management for 100 client households. In this episode, Ashlee shares the practical decisions that have helped her create a business that works around her life rather than asking her life to revolve around the business. Listen in to hear how she freed up time for higher-value work, including by working with a virtual assistant, what helps her stay top-of-mind with potential clients, and how she's managed client headcount over time.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/511
An effective discovery process not only can help an advisor better understand prospects' unique situations, but also can increase the rate at which they become full-time clients. Today's guest shares how he has developed a discovery process that has converted every prospect who has gone through it into a client over the past decade.
Michael Yoder is the founder of Yoder Wealth Management, an RIA based in Walnut Creek, California, that oversees approximately $400 million in assets under management for 64 client households. In this episode, he shares how he uses an introductory call to identify whether a prospect is the right fit, prepares clients for more personal conversations about money, and uses a deep discovery meeting to uncover their values, priorities, and goals. Listen in to hear how narrowing his expertise helped him build relationships with CPAs and generate more referrals, why specialized knowledge in areas such as retirement income and equity compensation can create new opportunities, and why he decided to reduce the total client headcount he serves to better meet his lifestyle goals.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/510
Standing out as a true retirement expert: today's guest shares how she systemized her service by leaning into decumulation planning and running multiple tests on client plans to give them greater confidence that they will meet their retirement goals.
Dana Anspach is the founder of Sensible Money, an RIA based in Scottsdale, Arizona, that oversees $850 million in assets under management for 330 client households. In this episode, you'll hear how Dana uses historical return sequences to stress test portfolios against real-world market conditions. She also talks about how she identifies opportunities to lock in gains and applies an asset-liability matching approach to create enough cash flow to help clients weather market downturns.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/509
While it can seem like video content is everywhere, creating educational videos doesn't automatically result in viewers (or new clients) for financial advisors. Which suggests that taking a structured, evidence-based approach to video content could lead to a greater return on investment and a more satisfying experience. Today's guest joins the show to share what advisors can learn from his experience building an advisory firm through video, going from creating financial education videos on TikTok to building an audience of nearly 80,000 followers.
Nate Hoskin is the co-founder of SageContent, a platform that supports financial advisors in creating video marketing content. Listen in as Nate breaks down the lessons from his journey, including why follower numbers aren't enough and why understanding the audience you actually want to serve is critical to turning attention into business growth. You'll learn how to distinguish "performative" marketing from "performance" marketing, why data gives advisors the opportunity to improve their content faster, and how to build a funnel that turns viewers into prospects.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/508
Making the decision to downsize after growing can be shocking, but might also be the best decision for work-life balance. Today's guest shares the lessons she learned from growing her firm to more than 100 clients, before ultimately deciding that downsizing was the right choice.
Carolyn McClanahan is the founder of Life Planning Partners, an RIA based in Jacksonville, Florida, that oversees $300 million in assets under management for 65 client households. In this episode, Carolyn opens up about how she used business coaches to create clearer career paths, establish measurable expectations, and improve compensation structures, before ultimately recognizing that the firm's growth strategy was contributing to burnout. Listen in to learn why she believes the financial planning profession could benefit from medical-style residency programs and why building a great advisory firm sometimes means knowing when not to grow.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/507
Key metrics can not only show how your advisory firm is performing, but also whether your team is thriving. Today's guest builds a 'killer' scorecard to track the metrics that matter – from client engagement and new business activity to employee time off and retention – as well as why she shares valuable planning insights with prospects before they even become clients and how being more selective about the clients she works with has helped reduce stress and create more time.
Jenna Biancavilla is the founder of Pearl Capital Management, an RIA based in Phoenix that oversees approximately $275 million in assets under management for 110 client households. In this episode, she breaks down how she balances weekly and quarterly metrics, sets achievable targets, and uses data to keep her team focused on the firm's biggest priorities. Jenna also explains how adopting the Entrepreneurial Operating System helped her team address issues faster, run more effective meetings, and prioritize quarterly "rocks" that move the business forward.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/506
How do you know you're making the right decision, especially when every option comes with trade-offs? Whether you're making career decisions or leading a growing advisory firm, today's guest offers practical lessons on building a business that aligns with your values while creating long-term success.
Andrew Rosen is the Executive Chairman of Diversified, LLC, and in this episode, he shares the decision-making framework he calls the "pillow test," a simple but powerful way to evaluate career moves, business opportunities, and strategic decisions. Listen in as Andrew explains how this mindset shaped his career, from choosing a lower-paying role with greater long-term opportunity to navigating acquisitions, ownership transitions, and decisions around private equity investment. You'll learn how Diversified evolved from founder-led ownership to a partner-owned firm, what matters just as much as technical expertise when earning clients' trust, and more.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/505
What makes a financial advisor stand out? The answer isn't a better logo or tagline—it's building a personal brand that stands out in the eyes of good-fit clients and ensures their work is in sync with their values.
Sheri Fitts is a marketing strategist, and she joins the show to explain why every advisor already has a brand (whether they realize it or not), and how intentionally shaping that brand can attract more of the right clients. Listen in to learn how to uncover what existing clients value most about working with you, identify the niche that best aligns with your strengths and passions, and test your positioning before making major marketing investments. Sheri also shares how AI can help validate market opportunities, why experimentation is essential when refining your brand, and how having the courage to be bold—and stay true to your purpose—can create a business that's both more fulfilling and more successful.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/504
Whether you're looking to scale your advisory firm, improve your marketing strategy, or build a stronger brand presence, today's guest offers practical insights into how he has successfully done all that and more.
David Brooks is the founder of Retire SMART, an RIA based in Omaha, Nebraska, that oversees approximately $800 million in assets under management for 1,000 client households. David joins the show today to share his strategic approach to marketing and growth, including how educational events, radio, television, podcasts, YouTube, and social media have helped him expand his reach and build trust with prospective clients. He also talks about how he measures marketing ROI, creates value through tax-focused planning, and navigates the operational challenges that come with rapid growth.
For show notes and more visit: https://www.kitces.com/503
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