Many Irish Times readers were talking this week about Fintan O'Toole's column on the subject of the IRA and the appropriateness of chanting "Up the 'Ra'.

Hugh talks to Fintan about his column, the debate around the chant and how the history of the Troubles is understood today.

Plus, a look at what's happening in Westminster following an extremely turbulent week for prime minister Liz Truss.

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