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Rachel Jimenez built an Etsy side hustle into a six-figure business and left her full-time job. Today, freedom looks like going to the gym at 10 a.m., having control over her schedule, and choosing work because she wants to do it.
But when you could stop working, what keeps you going? And how do you know when the pursuit of achievement is making your life better—or simply giving you another goal to chase?
In this episode of the Fit Rich Life Podcast, I sit down with Rachel, the founder of Money Hacking Mama, whom I met at FinCon in Palm Springs. Rachel shares how she went from juggling a full-time job, graduate school, and two young children to building an online business that gave her more control over her time. We trace her financial independence journey back to discovering Mr. Money Mustache, working toward a 50% savings rate, and building wealth alongside her husband.
Then we get into the business itself. Rachel explains how she found opportunities selling digital products on Etsy, why researching what people already want changed her results, and how she kept going when her shop wasn't making much money. We talk about the first sale that makes online income feel real, what "passive" income actually requires, and how AI is changing the opportunity for creators.
We also explore achievement, happiness, and the moving target of "enough." Rachel and her husband reached their original FI number, but a bigger home and different lifestyle goals changed the calculation. She shares why she believes she could stop working, why she still chooses to teach and create, and what she gets from helping other people build Etsy shops, grow online businesses, and move toward financial independence. I also open up about the pull of returning to a high-paying career despite loving the freedom I already have.
Finally, Rachel shares how she uses the PERMA model—positive emotion, engagement, relationships, meaning, and accomplishment—to make more room for happiness in everyday life. We talk about scheduling date nights, finding people who support your goals, making movement enjoyable, and building a life that feels good while you're working toward what's next.
Connect With Rachel Jimenez:
Website, Newsletter & Free Passive Income Startup Checklist: moneyhackingmama.com
Instagram: @moneyhackingmama
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MoneyHackingMama
Etsy E-Printables Course: https://fitrichlife--gold-city-ventures.thrivecart.com/etsy-printables/5f7f6464870b7/
Get a FREE copy of my Fit Rich Life Money Guide: mwob.fitrichlife.com
In This Episode:
Meeting at FinCon and turning a new connection into a meaningful conversation
What financial freedom looks like on an ordinary weekday
Earning a full college scholarship and using doubt as motivation
The drive to prove people wrong—and finding a different source of motivation
Discovering Mr. Money Mustache and working toward a 50% savings rate
Building wealth as a couple through saving, investing, and growing income
Trying different side hustles before finding traction on Etsy
Building a business while working, studying, and raising two young children
Why researching customer demand changed Rachel's Etsy results
Selling digital products without physical inventory or shipping
Finding opportunities through keyword research and less competitive niches
Staying consistent when the results are slow
The first online sale that changes what you believe is possible
What passive income actually requires after the products are built
Using AI to support your business while creating products people want
Reaching your original FI number—and watching the target move
Choosing a bigger home and being intentional about lifestyle upgrades
Why Rachel believes she could stop working, and why she hasn't
Achievement, ambition, and deciding what "enough" means to you
Justin's temptation to return to a high-paying career
Choosing teaching, creating, and helping others for the meaning they provide
Supporting creators, Etsy sellers, and people on their FI journey
Using the PERMA model to make more room for happiness
Planning date nights and protecting time for relationships
Finding community and accountability through masterminds and conferences
Making movement fun and building a daily walking habit
Auditing your time to see whether your schedule reflects the life you want
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Carl Jensen retired at 43. Learning to enjoy the freedom he'd built took years longer.
In this episode of the Fit Rich Life Podcast, I sit down with my friend Carl, creator of 1500 Days to Freedom, for an honest conversation about achieving financial independence — and figuring out what to do with your life once you get there.
Carl shares how a stressful software career led him to Google "how to retire early," discover Mr. Money Mustache, and build a plan to leave his job. He also opens up about what he calls his "death march" to financial independence: working 80–100 hours a week between his job, house renovations, and blog while sacrificing sleep, fitness, and time he can never get back.
We explore why the first several years of early retirement felt surprisingly unsettling, how the drive that helps you build wealth can make it difficult to slow down, and why Carl is finally learning to do things simply because he enjoys them. I also share how friendship, community, and pickleball helped me work through my own identity crisis after leaving my career.
Then we get into learning to spend. Carl explains why buying a $10,000 private concert pushed him outside his comfort zone, how he's becoming more comfortable paying for meaningful experiences, and why extreme frugality can eventually get in the way of the life you saved for. We talk about shifting from maximizing your net worth to maximizing your net life — and using money to make the things you already love even better.
Carl also breaks down his 25,000-step-a-day walking habit, how he combines strength training with hours of movement, and the workout mistake that held back his progress for years. Finally, we explore the connection between childhood experiences and constant achievement, separating self-worth from productivity, and using Stoicism to find more gratitude in everyday life.
Connect With Carl Jensen:
1500 Days to Freedom: 1500days.com
Get a FREE copy of my Fit Rich Life Money Guide: mwob.fitrichlife.com
In This Episode:
The stressful work experience that sparked Carl's early retirement journey
Discovering Mr. Money Mustache and getting his wife Mindy on board
Building wealth through saving, investing, and live-in house flips
Why being financially ready to retire doesn't mean feeling emotionally ready
The "death march" to FI and what Carl would do differently
Building a life you enjoy before reaching your FI number
Feeling lost after leaving work and finding purpose in retirement
Why friendship and community deserve deliberate effort
Learning to enjoy life without constantly accomplishing something
Moving beyond extreme frugality and getting comfortable spending
The $10,000 private concert that challenged Carl's money mindset
Maximizing your net life and spending on meaningful experiences
Walking 25,000 steps a day, weighted vests, and strength training
Childhood experiences, overachievement, and self-worth
Saving for the freedom to handle whatever life brings
Using Stoicism to practice gratitude and reframe everyday frustrations
Full Show Notes w/ Links to resources: www.fitrichlife.com/podcast/
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Rachel Richards retired from her corporate career at 27 after building a real estate portfolio that generated enough income to cover her living expenses. Then she built Money Honey Rachel — a successful online business with books, courses, a mastermind, and hundreds of thousands of followers.
But when that business was on track to generate approximately $600,000-$700,000 in annual profit, she decided to shut it down.
In this episode, Rachel shares why she walked away, how her dream of becoming an author turned into an influencer job she resented, and the identity crisis she wasn't prepared for when the income, engagement, and external validation stopped.
We explore the difference between net worth and self-worth, why financially independent people keep chasing money they don't need, and how to recognize when you already have enough. I also open up about my own struggles with achievement, childhood financial insecurity, and the temptation to return to a high-paying career despite loving the life I have now.
Rachel also shares how she's finding fulfillment through fitness and friendship, why she co-created the Better Body challenge with James Lowery, and the $10,000 accountability bet that helped her finish 75 Hard. We talk about building a stronger body through consistency, putting yourself around people who support your growth, and shifting from maximizing your net worth to maximizing your net life.
Finally, Rachel opens up about the financial lessons from her divorce, why she wishes she'd had a prenup, and how journaling helped her process what happened and rebuild her confidence. She also explains why stepping away from social media has been so freeing — and why you don't have to make a big impact to make a positive impact.
Connect With Rachel Richards:
Website: moneyhoneyrachel.comInstagram & Free Resources: @moneyhoneyrachel Better Body Challenge: moneyhoneyrachel.com/program/better-body Books: Money Honey and Passive Income, Aggressive Retirement
Get a FREE copy of my Fit Rich Life Money Guide: mwob.fitrichlife.com
In This Episode:
Paying her way through college by selling Cutco knives
Buying her first Kentucky duplex at 24 and scaling to 38 rental units
The cash flow and challenges of boarding-house-style properties
Retiring from her corporate career at 27
How becoming an author turned into running an influencer business
Walking away from a business on track for 600,000–700,000 in annual profit
Losing the external validation that shaped her identity
Separating your self-worth from your income, achievements, and followers
Why having enough money doesn't always feel like enough
The "financial whiplash" of earning less after becoming financially independent
Justin's struggle with status, achievement, and feeling like he has to earn love
Maximizing your net life instead of endlessly maximizing your net worth
Building self-acceptance through journaling and affirmations
Creating Better Body with James Lowery
Why accountability and community help make fitness habits stick
The $10,000 bet that helped Rachel complete 75 Hard
Divorce, financial independence, and the prenup conversation she wishes she'd had
Tracking your lifts, protein, and net worth
Leaving social media and writing letters to your future self
Making a positive impact without needing a massive audience
Full Show Notes w/ Links to resources: www.fitrichlife.com/podcast/
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Justin Taylor is back for his third appearance on the Fit Rich Life Podcast — this time for the three conversations we ran out of time for in Episode 112.
He retired from his W-2 career at 33 and is now two and a half years into early retirement. Justin is a little over four years sober. He and his wife Leslie are child-free by choice. This September marks my twelfth year sober, I'm a little over two years into early retirement myself, and I'm also child-free by choice — so this one is less interview and more two friends comparing notes from slightly different points on the same road.
In this episode, Justin shares what the first years of early retirement actually feel like once the novelty wears off — why there's no magic switch that flips the day you stop working, why his first year was "machine gunning" with no storyline arc, and how the stress he swore he wasn't carrying showed up in his dreams and in a shoulder injury he assumed was permanent.
We also get into the part nobody warns you about: early retirement can be lonely. I spent my first nine months chasing more income I didn't need, and it took pickleball, a new gym, and finally showing up at FinCon and EconoMe to rebuild the community I'd lost. Justin explains why he's happy to carry the bulk of the weight in his friendships, why keeping score guarantees nobody wins, and how he integrates himself into the lives of friends who still work nine to five.
Then we go deep on sober living. Justin breaks down the math that got him to quit — if you roll the dice a few times a year for fifty more years, that's two hundred chances for something you can't take back — and why quitting was easy for him when moderating never was. We talk about the mental chatter that disappears, why you end up with fewer acquaintances but not fewer friends, and why almost everyone we admire is sober.
Finally, we talk about being child-free by choice: why kids should be a hell yes or a hell no, the "you're selfish" argument and why it doesn't hold up, the assumption that every woman will eventually want children, and how you define legacy for yourself when you're not leaving one behind in the form of a child.
Fit Rich Life Podcast Episode 115 with Justin Taylor is available on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, and wherever you enjoy your podcast entertainment.
Connect With Justin Taylor:
Life Well Worth It: https://lifewellworthit.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saving_sherpa/
Substack: https://lifewellworthit.substack.com/
Get a FREE copy of my Money Guide: https://mwob.fitrichlife.com/
In This Episode:
What two and a half years of early retirement actually feel like
Why there's no magic switch that flips the day you stop working
Retiring to something versus retiring from something
Why early retirement is lonelier than anyone tells you
Justin's first nine months chasing income he didn't need
Carrying the bulk of the weight in a friendship without keeping score
How to visit friends who still work a nine to five
Taking one hundred percent responsibility for your relationships
How to answer "what do you do for a living" when you're retired at 33
Why telling people inspires them far more often than it offends them
The three things that turned Justin's first year around
Sleeping nine to eleven hours a night for a full year after leaving work
The stress you don't know you're carrying until you put it down
Why being a great friend, spouse, and athlete is already a full-time job
Too much open space, and why physical quests fix it
Finding the right amount of work you actually love
Why so many fitness obsessives come from a prior addiction
Sobriety as a superpower, and why you stop hanging out with people you never wanted to hang out with
The two hundred rolls of the dice that ended Justin Taylor's drinking
Why abstinence is easier than moderation
The mental chatter that disappears when you stop drinking
Fewer acquaintances, not fewer friends
Why nobody who quits drinking seems to regret it
The six-month sober experiment worth running
Child-free by choice, and why kids should be a hell yes or hell no
The "you're selfish for not having kids" argument, inverted
Why "wait until she wants kids" isn't a fair assumption
Defining legacy when you don't have children
The funeral test for a life well lived
Building a body of work instead
Full Show Notes w/ Links to resources: www.fitrichlife.com/podcast/
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Alan Hong went from being bullied and living with a deep sense of powerlessness to overcorrecting through anger, ambition, external validation, and constant achievement.
Today, Alan is the creator of The Codexx and writer of The Sovereign Letter, where he explores state-first identity shifts, nervous system regulation, coherence, and personal sovereignty.
In this episode, Alan explains why strategy alone often fails, how your internal state shapes your identity, and why externally successful people can still feel empty and fragmented inside.
We explore the hidden cost of building your life with "dirty fuel," how pain and survival programming can drive achievement while slowly wearing you down, and why lasting transformation requires more than discipline or willpower.
Alan also shares how to stop abandoning yourself, reprogram the patterns keeping you stuck, align your mind, body, and heart, and become more sovereign over your choices and your life.
This is a powerful conversation about identity, ambition, healing, self-awareness, nervous system regulation, and building success without sacrificing yourself in the process.
Connect With Alan
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thealanhong/
Get a FREE copy of my Money Guide: https://mwob.fitrichlife.com/
In This Episode:
Growing up with refugee parents and inheriting their survival programming
Getting bullied, and why Justin was briefly a bully himself
The graduation nobody clapped at, and the swing from victim to villain
Fifteen sales jobs in five years and the burnout pattern underneath them
Finding unconditional love and the beginning of a third path
Why Alan doesn't write about his faith, and who his work is actually for
Maslow's hierarchy, safety and significance, and why "teach a man to fish" fails
How the Codexx started as a public diary
What you teach is teaching you: using a platform to metabolize your own growth
No originals, only original remixes — Lao Tzu, the Stoics, NLP, and the Hermetic principles
David Goggins versus Wim Hof: two ways to conquer a literal mountain
Nonviolent communication: needs are valid, strategies are the problem
What self-abandonment actually looks like from the inside
Justin's investment banking internships and eight years in Hollywood nightlife
When the cost exceeds the value: the gym membership test
State before strategy, and why discipline advice fails ADHD brains
Justin's shift from looking rich to FI — the Range Rover, the Prius, and three years of cooking at home
Backsliding, and why identity has to be secured before habits will hold
Dirty fuel versus clean fuel, and the hidden price of pain-driven success
Fight, flight, freeze, fawn — how survival programming shows up at work
Stress as the silent killer
Coherence: mind, body, and heart in alignment as the opposite of survival
Sovereignty explained through statecraft
Alan's tips for fitness, money, and life
Chapters:
00:00 — Welcome, and who Alan Hong is 00:55 — Recording from Byron Bay, Australia 02:15 — Refugee parents, survival programming, and a bullied childhood 07:01 — Justin on being bullied by his brother and becoming a bully 09:26 — Nobody clapped at graduation: victim to villain at 19 11:46 — Pickup artistry, alpha-male circles, and stacking skills 23:54 — Why Alan doesn't write about Christianity 26:12 — Maslow's hierarchy, safety, and significance 28:31 — Meeting real needs through unhealthy strategies 33:22 — How the Codexx began as a public diary 36:04 — Two and a half years of creating online 41:21 — No originals, only original remixes: Alan's influences 44:16 — David Goggins versus Wim Hof 46:41 — The bicep curl and the myth of the self-made man 50:04 — Nonviolent communication: needs, feelings, and strategies 54:05 — Justin's investment banking years and the Hollywood nightlife trap 01:01:06 — When the cost exceeds the value 01:10:15 — What "state" means, and why state comes before strategy 01:15:58 — Justin's identity shift from looking rich to FI 01:29:32 — Blended chicken breast and the anatomy of a backslide 01:31:53 — Dirty fuel versus clean fuel 01:38:27 — Your body doesn't know you're safe 01:40:53 — Fight, flight, freeze, fawn in everyday life 01:43:52 — Stress as the silent killer 01:45:54 — Coherence: the opposite of survival 01:51:22 — Sovereignty through the lens of statecraft 01:55:57 — Money tip: time in the market, not timing the market 01:57:29 — Fitness tip: hypertrophy and progressive overload 01:59:19 — Life tip: zoom out and see the patterns 02:00:36 — Where to find Alan online
Full Show Notes w/ Links to resources: www.fitrichlife.com/podcast/
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Sathish Gajula started tracking his household net worth at zero in 2017. It took six years to reach $234,000 — and only three more to cross $1 million. He's a senior pharmaceutical engineer, the host of the Compounding Project Podcast, and living proof that compounding applies to a lot more than money.
In this episode, Sathish shares the $380 phone call that revealed he was living paycheck to paycheck on a $70,000 salary, how one job change came with a negotiated 50 percent raise and a remote arrangement, why automation beats willpower every time, and why the first $100,000 ended up meaning more to him than the million.
We also explore the 40 pounds he lost and the visible 6-pack he built using a $10 food scale, the parallels between compounding health and compounding wealth — plus the one place they diverge — how he got his wife on board with financial independence using two books and a library, and why he'd rather be a millionaire with a 6-pack in a Toyota than an unhealthy millionaire in a Ferrari.
Sathish and Justin also dig into W-2 careers versus entrepreneurship, survivorship bias in the creator economy, growing your career income as the single biggest lever, and the cost of over-optimizing your life — including Justin's case for protecting your leisure.
Connect With Sathish Gajula:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/compoundingproject/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CompoundingProject
Get a FREE copy of my Money Guide: https://mwob.fitrichlife.com/
Full Show Notes w/ Links to resources: www.fitrichlife.com/podcast/
In This Episode:
• The year-by-year net worth chart from $0 to $1 million • Why the first $100,000 took three years and mattered most • How a single job change produced a 50 percent raise • Earning a Boston salary while living in North Carolina • Why he never bought individual stocks • Automation as the most underrated wealth-building habit • How automated investing creates dollar cost averaging for you • Lifestyle creep at $70,000 a year and why raises don't fix saving • When to stop doing everything yourself and start buying back your time • Growing up in rural India where the stock market was considered gambling • The $380 phone call that started his FI journey • Why a W-2 job may be a better path to FI than entrepreneurship • Getting a reluctant spouse on board without starting a fight • Losing 40 pounds and building a six pack with a $10 food scale • Why protein at every meal changed his fitness results • The Compound Effect story: 125 calories a day for 31 months • Identity-based habits in both fitness and money • When optimizing your life starts shrinking it
Chapters:
00:00 — Meet Sathish Gajula 01:36 — Zero to $1 million: what actually happened 04:05 — The job change that came with a 50 percent raise 07:33 — Which number meant more, $100K or $1M 09:57 — The net worth chart, year by year 13:21 — Why index funds instead of stock picking 16:37 — VOO, VTI, and why index funds are self-cleansing 18:06 — Finding JL Collins and The Simple Path to Wealth 19:31 — Why automation beats willpower 21:13 — What paying yourself first actually looks like 24:03 — Automation as built-in dollar cost averaging 26:23 — Lifestyle inflation at $70,000 a year 28:27 — Time in the market vs. timing the market 34:35 — When to start buying back your time 40:02 — Building the wealth snowball 46:08 — The cost of waiting five years to start 48:11 — Growing up in rural India: land, savings, and taboo 52:16 — The $380 phone call 54:55 — Googling "how to stop living paycheck to paycheck" 56:47 — Justin's own FI awakening 59:02 — W-2 career vs. entrepreneurship 01:09:16 — Career income is the biggest lever 01:15:29 — Getting his wife on board with FI 01:21:18 — Optimizing housing, food, and transportation 01:28:24 — Three years without eating out 01:30:14 — Lifestyle creep is real 01:32:34 — A millionaire with a six pack in a Toyota 01:35:29 — Losing 40 pounds 01:36:33 — The $10 food scale 01:43:04 — Do you still track your food? 01:45:55 — Principles that transfer between health and wealth 01:50:40 — 125 calories a day for 31 months 01:56:07 — Identity-based habits 02:04:26 — When optimization starts shrinking your life 02:06:49 — The case for leisure 02:12:02 — Ted Lasso, Shrinking, and Billions 02:19:06 — Fitness: protein at every meal 02:24:08 — Money: don't quit before compounding kicks in 02:26:44 — Life: never stop learning 02:31:02 — Where to find Sathish
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Justin Taylor reached financial independence around age 30 and retired from his W-2 career at 33 after building wealth through a remarkably repeatable strategy: increasing his income, keeping his annual spending near $24,000, reaching an 80–90% savings rate, and consistently investing in index funds.
In this episode, Justin shares how he went from earning roughly $40,000 in the Air Force to $230,000 in corporate tech without inflating his lifestyle — and why his net worth has grown by more than $1 million since he stopped working.
We also explore the psychological challenges of early retirement, why spending can feel harder than saving, and how to shift from maximizing your net worth to maximizing your net life.
Justin also breaks down how he and his wife traveled through Southeast Asia and Europe for six months for approximately $9,000 per person while staying in beautiful places, having bucket-list experiences, and maintaining their fitness. He shares how slow travel, house swapping, travel rewards, geographic arbitrage, home cooking, and flexibility made it possible.
Finally, Justin explains how that experience inspired Life Well Worth It — fitness and wellness retreats built around travel, physical challenges, intentional living, and in-person community.
Connect with Justin Taylor:
Life Well Worth It: https://lifewellworthit.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saving_sherpa/
Substack: https://lifewellworthit.substack.com/
In This Episode:
How Justin reached financial independence around age 30
Why he retired from his W-2 career at 33
How he increased his income without inflating his lifestyle
Why he kept his annual spending near $24,000
How an 80–90% savings rate accelerated his path to freedom
Why his net worth grew by more than $1 million after retirement
The challenge of transitioning from saving to spending
How Justin and his wife manage their money together
How they traveled for six months for approximately $9,000 per person
How house swapping, travel rewards, and slow travel reduce costs
How Justin maintained his fitness and gained lean muscle while traveling
Why tracking your food and finances creates freedom and intuition
How running became a way to experience new places
Why framing frugality as a fun challenge changes everything
The origin of Life Well Worth It retreats
Why physical quests create confidence, connection, and purpose
How community accelerates your fitness and financial journey
Why you should design your life instead of defaulting to what is normal
Chapters:
00:00 — Justin's journey into early retirement 01:09 — Leaving the 9-to-5 with a severance package 04:55 — Justin's income journey from the Air Force to tech 07:39 — Reaching financial independence around age 30 08:21 — How Justin kept his expenses near $24,000 13:24 — Reaching an 80–90% savings rate 14:48 — Justin's FI number and growing wealth after retirement 20:08 — Managing money within a marriage 22:47 — How Justin funds his early-retirement lifestyle 28:12 — Reframing frugality as a fun challenge 31:43 — Traveling for six months for approximately $9,000 37:05 — Maintaining fitness while traveling the world 38:39 — What is HYROX? 47:17 — Tracking food before transitioning to intuitive eating 55:52 — Why tracking reduces mental energy 59:49 — House swapping, travel rewards, and affordable accommodations 01:10:03 — The origin of Life Well Worth It 01:14:50 — Creating their first fitness retreat in Spain 01:24:52 — Why beginners belong in fitness communities 01:30:08 — How to join a Life Well Worth It retreat 01:41:27 — Fitness: Make it part of your lifestyle 01:46:18 — Money: Create your rules and stop negotiating 01:51:41 — Life: Design what works for you
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Philip "PT Money" Taylor went from carrying roughly $70,000 in debt and working as a corporate CPA to becoming a full-time creator and building FinCon — the leading conference for personal finance creators and brands.
In this episode, PT shares how personal finance blogs changed his relationship with money, why documenting his journey helped him stay accountable, and how a simple idea to bring internet friends together grew into an event that shaped an entire industry.
We also explore the future of the creator economy, the impact of AI, the importance of finding your people, and why you should start creating before your brand, niche, or business plan feels perfect.
PT also explains when creators should form an LLC, separate their business finances, hire a CPA, and begin treating their content like a real business.
Connect With PTPT Money: PTMoney.com FinCon: FinConExpo.com Creator CPA: www.TheCreatorCPA.com
In This EpisodeHow PT paid off approximately $70,000 in debt
Why writing publicly creates accountability
How blogging became a full-time business
The origin story of FinCon
Why beginners belong in creator communities
How in-person relationships accelerate success
The evolution of blogging, YouTube, social media, and AI
Why creators should choose formats they genuinely enjoy
When to form an LLC and hire a CPA
How entrepreneurship accelerated PT's financial freedom
Why freedom is about family, health, creativity, and meaningful work
00:00 — How FinCon shaped the creator industry 00:59 — The early personal finance internet 07:42 — What is FinCon? 11:03 — PT's CPA career and debt journey 21:30 — Why PT started creating online 25:03 — Writing, accountability, and financial progress 31:35 — How PT Money got its name 36:53 — The origin of FinCon 40:41 — The power of in-person community 46:30 — Why beginners belong at FinCon 55:59 — The evolution of the creator economy 59:30 — YouTube, AI, and independent creators 01:09:20 — The business side of creating 01:10:59 — Why PT created Creator CPA 01:14:32 — When should a creator hire a CPA? 01:18:27 — PT's evolving definition of financial independence 01:26:18 — Entrepreneurship and financial freedom 01:28:11 — Fitness: Prioritize protein 01:30:11 — Money: Open the account 01:32:04 — Life: Connect with something greater
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What does life actually look like after you hit your FI number? In this episode of the Fit Rich Life Podcast, Justin sits down with Cody Berman — who reached financial independence at 25 and just released his #1 bestselling book Retired by 30 — for an honest, peer-to-peer conversation about the messy, rewarding first years of early retirement. They took two different roads to the same place (Cody through entrepreneurship, Justin through a corporate sales career), and they compare notes on identity, decompression, building businesses that run without you, and why the real goal was never a number.
Connect with Cody Berman:
Website: https://goldcityventures.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codydberman/
Working in seasons instead of grinding 24/7/365
The identity crisis that hits when you leave a high-performing career
The decompression period nobody warns you about (and sleeping 10–12 hours a night for a year)
Why you still need a quest — and how to find your North Star in early retirement
Building scalable, systemized businesses (SOPs, delegation, passive income)
The 1,200-day email sequence and the "leaky bucket" problem
Structuring your days around your values — not a job
The transition period and getting comfortable in the unknown
Why community is an asset class, and "be the lighthouse, not the tugboat"
Shifting from maximizing net worth to maximizing net life
Resources & links mentioned
Books: Retire By 30 by Cody Berman · Traction by Gino Wickman· The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss · Profit First by Mike Michalowicz · Retire Often by Jillian Johnsrud · Transitions by William Bridges
People: Grant Sabatier · Paula Pant · Scott Trench · Jillian Johnsrud · Doug Cunnington (Mile High FI) · JD Roth (Get Rich Slowly) · Justin Welsh · Dan Koe · Ramit Sethi (money dials)
Events: Camp FI · EconoMe · FinCon
Tools: Kit (email) · Asana · Loom · Slack · Empower (formerly Personal Capital)
Cody's business: Gold City Ventures
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In this episode of the Fit Rich Life Podcast, I'm joined for a third time by my friend, mentor, and bestselling author JL Collins, author of The Simple Path to Wealth.
When I first discovered JL's work in 2017, it fundamentally changed my financial life. In our previous conversations, we covered FU money, index investing, financial independence, bonds, market downturns, and staying the course. But this conversation explores new territory — including JL's recent shift toward adding international stocks to his portfolio.
We talk about why JL, after decades of primarily investing in U.S. index funds, has added VT, Vanguard's Total World Stock ETF, and what that means for investors who currently hold VTI, VTSAX, or the S&P 500. JL explains why this is not a dramatic change, why he still believes the most important decision is to invest in low-cost, broad-based index funds, and why investors should avoid creating unnecessary tax consequences just to make minor portfolio adjustments.
We also discuss market crashes, all-time highs, trading traps, stock picking, the danger of trying to predict the market, and why the stock market will always do whatever it needs to do to embarrass the maximum number of people. JL shares one of his own painful investing mistakes from the 1987 crash and why staying the course requires courage, humility, and a long-term perspective.
From there, we dive into financial independence, "one more year syndrome," and the difference between retiring from work you dislike and creating a life filled with autonomy, creativity, and meaningful contribution. JL shares why he prefers the term financial independence over FIRE, why retirement is often misunderstood, and why a flexible, low-cost lifestyle can create far more freedom than chasing a bigger portfolio number.
Finally, JL offers personal reflections on health, fitness, aging, and why it's never too late — or too early — to begin building a stronger, freer, and more intentional life.
This conversation is a powerful reminder that wealth is not about prediction, perfection, or complexity. It's about owning your freedom, staying the course, and building a life you actually want to live.
Topics covered include:
JL Collins adding international stocks to his portfolio
VT vs. VTI vs. VTSAX vs. the S&P 500
How to think about portfolio changes without triggering taxes
Why market crashes are a normal part of long-term investing
The danger of trading, stock picking, and chasing hot sectors
What to do if you sold during a downturn
One more year syndrome and financial independence
Why retirement is really about autonomy
How FU money gives you options before full FI
Lessons on health, fitness, aging, and living boldly
Resources Mentioned:
The Simple Path to Wealth by JL Collins: https://amzn.to/4xuIdoN
The Simple Path to Wealth Workbook: https://amzn.to/4ov8qiI
Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund / ETF: VTSAX / VTI
Vanguard Total World Stock ETF: VT
Vanguard Total International Stock ETF: VXUS
Quit Like a Millionaire by Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung: https://a.co/d/0j1g0k8a
Parent Like a Millionaire Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung: https://a.co/d/0d8BqdnC
Same as Ever by Morgan Housel: https://a.co/d/06pMELu2
Connect with JL Collins:
Web: https://jlcollinsnh.com/
X: https://x.com/JLCollinsNH
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