After months of promises, missed deadlines, disappearing documents, and a release that somehow exposed victims while still leaving major questions about what DOJ withheld, journalist and attorney Katie Phang sued Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche over the Epstein files.

In this episode, I get into Pam Bondi’s disastrous rollout, what the Epstein Files Transparency Act actually required, the records and redactions at the center of Phang’s lawsuit, and why DOJ is still arguing that it has already done enough.

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PHANG v. BLANCHE, 1:26-cv-01417, (D.D.C.) 

H.R.4405 - Epstein Files Transparency Act

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405

H.R.4405 - Epstein Files Transparency Act

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/BILLS-119hr4405ih

United States v. Maxwell, No. 22-1426 (2d Cir. 2024)

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca2/22-1426/22-1426-2024-09-17.html

United States v. Maxwell, No. 20 Cr. 330 (PAE), Dkt. 844, Opinion & Order (S.D.N.Y. Jan. 21, 2026) (Engelmayer, J.).

Jonathan J. Wroblewski, “Proposed Amendment to Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure Authorizing the Release of Historical Grand Jury Material,” memorandum to Judge Michael J. Garcia, U.S. Department of Justice, Criminal Division, Office of Policy and Legislation, September 13, 2021, 21-CR-J. 

United States v. Maxwell, No. 20 Cr. 330 (PAE), Dkt. 844, at 4–5 & n.1 (S.D.N.Y. Jan. 21, 2026) 

U.S. Department of Justice, Office of Professional Responsibility. Investigation into the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida’s Resolution of Its Federal Investigation of Jeffrey Epstein and Its Treatment of Victims. November 2020.

https://www.justice.gov/opr/page/file/1336471/dl

U.S. Attorney’s Office, Southern District of New York. “Jeffrey Epstein Charged in Manhattan Federal Court With Sex Trafficking of Minors.” July 8, 2019.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/jeffrey-epstein-charged-manhattan-federal-court-sex-trafficking-minors

U.S. Department of Justice, Office of the Inspector General. Investigation and Review of the Federal Bureau of Prisons’ Custody, Care, and Supervision of Jeffrey Epstein at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York, New York. June 2023.

https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/reports/23-085.pdf

U.S. Attorney’s Office, Southern District of New York. “Ghislaine Maxwell Sentenced to 20 Years in Prison for Conspiring With Jeffrey Epstein to Sexually Abuse Minors.” June 28, 2022.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-sentenced-20-years-prison-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually-abuse

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/puberty

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/RS22654

This week I spoke with Zolal Habibi, an Iranian human rights activist and member of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the National Council of Resistance of Iran. We talk about Iran’s uprising, decades of repression, Western complicity, and what state violence looks like when it’s normalized and ignored.

Two men dead in Texas at 39, and 43 years old. The common denominator? Both men were married to the same woman whose father was a recently retired corporal at the local county sheriff's department.

Episode correction - Valerie knew David and Cortney, not Coy.

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Domestic Violence Statistics

The following sources were provided by family/close friends

Autopsy of David Coots

David Coots' police report

Autopsy of Coy Hilliard

Kyla - Timeline/sequence of events

Hi! I changed hosting platforms and several of my older episodes were deleted so I will be working through audio remastering and re releasing them over the next few months.

This week we talk about the murders of the DeFeo family. Was this caused by a demon? Or was this done by the eldest child, Ronald DeFeo Jr.? Once George and Kathy Lutz moved into the house after the murders, they fled leaving everything behind 28 days later. Their story inspired what we know today as the Amityville Horror.

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Killer Psyche Podcast Ron DeFeo: The Real Story Behind the Amityville Horror

Investigation Discovery

Amityville Horror House

Wikipedia

Ronald DeFeo Jr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_DeFeo_Jr.

Court of Appeal of California, Second District, Division Two Lutz v. De Laurentiis

DeFeo v. Artuz, 958 F. Supp. 104

The Amityville Murders

www.amityvillemurders.com

(I personally don’t believe what is in this source, but take it for what it’s worth)

Conversations with Ed & Lorraine Warren: Amityville Horror Part 1 & 2

‘I am the demon’: A look at letters ‘Amityville Horror’ killer Ronald DeFeo sent to PIX11’s Marvin Scott

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/long-island/i-am-the-demon-a-look-at-letters-amityville-horror-killer-ronald-defeo-sent-to-pix11s-marvin-scott/

The Amityville Murders: Stories of Strange True Crime

By: Ana Benson

This week I was interviewed on the Touchy Subjects podcast about what draws women to true crime and how true crime content creators can be more ethical in their content creation.

Reasa Selph brought her son to the ER with the flu. They gave him fluids and sent him home. Two weeks later, his skin turned yellow, his body was failing, and the infection traced straight back to the IV they placed that day. The same hospital dismissed him... twice. By Christmas morning, he was being rushed to another facility, fighting for his life with sepsis. What came next wasn’t just a medical crisis - it was a cover-up, a lawsuit, and a mother’s refusal to stay quiet about the system that almost killed her child.

Reasa's story covers failures in patient safety and the lack of accountability in modern healthcare.

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In 1969, Senator Ted Kennedy drove off a bridge on Chappaquiddick Island, leaving 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne trapped in a submerged car. He passed several houses, swam across the channel, and waited ten hours before telling anyone. By the time help showed up, she was gone, and the spin was already in motion. What followed wasn’t justice. It was damage control.

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Thank you to this week's sources:

Chancellor, J. (1969, July 26). NBC news broadcast. NBC News.

Commonwealth v. Edward M. Kennedy, No. 2342 (Edgartown Dist. Ct. 1969). Inquest testimony transcript.

Damore, L. (1988). Senatorial privilege: The Chappaquiddick cover-up. Regnery Gateway.

Encyclopaedia Britannica. (n.d.). Chappaquiddick incident. In Encyclopaedia Britannica online. https://www.britannica.com/event/Chappaquiddick-incident

Halberstam, D. (1969, July 27). The Senator’s speech. Harper's Magazine.

History.com Editors. (2019, July 18). Chappaquiddick incident. History.com. https://www.history.com/topics/1960s/chappaquiddick-incident

Kennedy, E. M. (2009). True compass: A memoir. Twelve.

Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles. (1970). Hearing on the suspension of the driver’s license of Edward Kennedy.

Nelson, D. R. (2016). Chappaquiddick tragedy: Kennedy’s second passenger revealed. CreateSpace Independent Publishing.

People Magazine. (2021, July 14). Mary Jo Kopechne’s family still wants answers about Chappaquiddick. https://people.com/politics/chappaquiddick-family-still-seeking-answers/

Putzel, Michael; Pyle, Richard (February 22, 1976). "Chappaquiddick (part 1)". Lakeland Ledger. (Florida). Associated Press. p. 1B.

Putzel, Michael; Pyle, Richard (February 29, 1976). "Chappaquiddick (part 2)". Lakeland Ledger. (Florida). Associated Press. p. 1B.

Reston, J. (1969, July 28). The measure of the man. The New York Times, p. A1.

The Martha’s Vineyard Times. (2019, July 17). 50 years later, Chappaquiddick still haunts. https://www.mvtimes.com/2019/07/17/chappaquiddick-50-years-later/

Time Magazine. (1969, August 1). A senator’s tragedy. Time.

In 1975, 15-year-old Martha Moxley was murdered in Belle Haven, Connecticut - a case later linked to the Kennedy family.

Martha was beaten to death with a golf club in her own backyard. The last person seen with her? The teenage son of one of the wealthiest families in Belle Haven—rich, connected, and untouchable. This should have been an easy case to solve, but from the moment Martha’s body was found, it was clear that only money and power would dictate what happened next.

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Murder in Greenwich: Who Killed Martha Moxley?

By: Mark Fuhrman

Framed: Why Michael Skakel spent over a decade in prison for a murder he didn’t commit

By: RFK Jr. 

Murder of Martha Moxley

Wikipedia

Timeline: Key dates in the Martha Moxley murder mystery

Robert Marchant, CT Insider

CT Superior Court

State of Connecticut vs. Michael Skakel

Probable Cause Hearing Transcript

June 20th, 2000 

Kennedy Family Tree

By: Useful Charts

The day a Kennedy was accused of rape at the family’s Palm Beach mansion

Miami Herald Archives

The Palm Beach rape case: what the police affidavit says

Tampa Bay Times Archives

3 women in affidavits accuse Smith of sex attacks

Mary Jordan, Washington Post

RFK Jr.’s distorted account of evidence he provided in cousin’s case

Glenn Kessler, Washington Post

A Crime in the Clan

David van Biema, TIME

Trial of Guilt

Dominick Dunne, Vanity Fair

In 1975, 15-year-old Martha Moxley was murdered in Belle Haven, Connecticut - a case later linked to the Kennedy family.

Martha was beaten to death with a golf club in her own backyard. The last person seen with her? The teenage son of one of the wealthiest families in Belle Haven—rich, connected, and untouchable. This should have been an easy case to solve, but from the moment Martha’s body was found, it was clear that only money and power would dictate what happened next.

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Murder in Greenwich: Who Killed Martha Moxley?

By: Mark Fuhrman

Framed: Why Michael Skakel spent over a decade in prison for a murder he didn’t commit

By: RFK Jr. 

Murder of Martha Moxley

Wikipedia

Timeline: Key dates in the Martha Moxley murder mystery

Robert Marchant, CT Insider

CT Superior Court

State of Connecticut vs. Michael Skakel

Probable Cause Hearing Transcript

June 20th, 2000 

Kennedy Family Tree

By: Useful Charts

The day a Kennedy was accused of rape at the family’s Palm Beach mansion

Miami Herald Archives

The Palm Beach rape case: what the police affidavit says

Tampa Bay Times Archives

3 women in affidavits accuse Smith of sex attacks

Mary Jordan, Washington Post

RFK Jr.’s distorted account of evidence he provided in cousin’s case

Glenn Kessler, Washington Post

A Crime in the Clan

David van Biema, TIME

Trial of Guilt

Dominick Dunne, Vanity Fair

F**k That and First Gen Gamers crossover!

I co-host a gaming podcast and wanted to share an episode while I finish the Martha Moxley series.

Enjoy!

I am now streaming weekly on TikTok @fthatpod