Flirting with Friendship

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the late‑night hotline where Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick turn your friendship problems, brain‑rot conspiracies, and club drama into chaotic group therapy.

In this episode, they dive into:

• “I have no friends”: why it’s so hard to connect in 4K social media world

• Free drugs, bad puns, and going to raves alone: the worst best advice for meeting people

• Are 3‑minute pop songs and reels actually psy‑ops to shrink your attention span?

• Drinking baby blood, Saturn worship & why all conspiracies are “kinda true” now

• When your friends hate the club but you don’t: building separate circles for different versions of you

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick

0:00 New Pill-O-Talk is here!

0:40 How To Make Friends

04:46 Conspiracy Theories 

06:36 Two Sets Of Friends

Armin van Buuren is one of the most successful DJs to ever touch a pair of decks - five-time #1 DJ in the world, a 20+ year radio show, a label empire, sold-out festivals… and yet he’ll tell you the real story isn’t the trophies, it’s what he learned along the way.

On this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick sit down with the trance legend for a surprisingly warm, funny, and honest chat about growing up in dance music and growing wiser inside it. 

They get into:

- How you can have everything on paper and still feel empty,  and what to do about it

- Why his most expensive, worst‑streaming piano record might be the most important thing he’s ever made

- Therapy in your 40s, keeping your ego in check, and not letting money corrupt your brain

- The real difference between the DJ world and the “music industry” machine

- Trance vs techno, “no genre is the genre,” and refusing to be a prisoner of your own style

- Building a true community around A State of Trance, staying close to fans, and finding joy in smaller, more human shows

If you love dance music, if you’ve ever felt stuck chasing your own idea of success, or you just want to hear Armin Van Buuren completely unfiltered and full of hard‑earned wisdom, this one’s for you.

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Chapters: 

00:00 Intro 

02:20 #1 DJ & Imposter Syndrome 

03:29 The Dark Side of DJ Life

08:15 Finding the Kid in His Underwear Making Tunes

09:23 The Piano Album: Worst Received, Most Important11:09 Techno, Trance & No-Genre Is the New Genre

20:22 The Dutch & The Business of Dance Music 

26:49 Music Industry vs. DJ Culture 

36:40 DJ Anxiety, Bad Gigs & Opening DJ Etiquette

44:28 Embracing Our Differences

Seth Troxler & Bill Patrick are back for Season 2 of Flirting With Friendship - different city, bigger production, same unfiltered chaos. 💫

In this premiere, Seth relives the 40th birthday that went way too far: a “microdose” that definitely wasn’t, a Palm Springs‑themed villa party in Ibiza, fake boobs turned public property, and the moment he realized maybe it was time to get sober. 

They get into:

- The wild night that inspired Seth to stay sober

- Losing 12,000 records in one storm

- Wearing giant fake breasts and suddenly understanding women

- Balancing family life, DJ careers, and long‑distance friendship

- Why they’re “flirting with God” and questioning reality

- The pain of long voice notes, cold video calls, and aging into your 40s

Season 2 is coming in hot from Los Angeles with guests Fatboy Slim, Matthew Dear, Alan T, Doc Martin, Chloé Caillet, Tokimonsta, A‑Trak, Armin Van Buuren, Kaz James, Hiroko Yamamura, Heidi Lawden, and Steve Hogan.

Expect some dark humour and deep conversations about friendship, music, culture, and growing up without totally calming down.

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00:00 Welcome back! 

01:06 Favorite S1 Moments

03:22 S2 Guests 

06:23 Seth's 40th birthday

09:30 Experimenting in life12:00 Flirting with God

14:04 On voice notes 

16:28 Seth’s new restaurant 

21:25 IBS and other ailments 

23:40 Guest sneak peak

27:47 On careers and friendship

Season 1 of Flirting with Friendship is officially a wrap. Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick pop in to say thank you, tease a new “state‑of‑the‑art” avatar project, and hint at what’s coming in Season 2.

📞 Call the Pill‑O‑Talk hotline with your friendship dilemmas: 1‑866‑608‑BFFS

🎧 Binge Season 1 of Flirting with Friendship plus the Pill‑O‑Talk episodes on YouTube, Spotify, and wherever you listen. Season 2 is coming! 

Keep up with Seth and Bill on IG: 
https://www.instagram.com/stroxler 
https://www.instagram.com/bill_patrick

🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang with your friends:
https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship

🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  
Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:
UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/
WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk 
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the hotline where Seth and Bill treat your life crises like late‑night radio, group therapy, and absolute chaos rolled into one.

In this episode, they dive into:

• A roommate secretly running an OnlyFans… on the shared living room couch

• Promotion news that’s already decided… but your friend is still manifesting it for herself

• “I’m not your therapist”: when a friendship turns into unpaid emotional labor

• How to set boundaries without feeling like the asshole (but maybe being a tiny bit of an asshole anyway)

☎️ Got a friendship, roommate, or work mess we need to unpack?
Call 1‑866‑608‑BFFS or email [email protected] and your drama might end up on the show.

🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!)
https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship

🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  
Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:
UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/
WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

🇮🇹 Italian
🌍 Guarda nella tua lingua: Tocca ⚙️ → Sottotitoli → Traduzione automatica

🇫🇷 French
🌍 Regardez dans votre langue: Appuyez sur ⚙️ → Sous-titres → Traduction automatique

🇪🇸 Spanish
🌍 Mira en tu idioma: Toca ⚙️ → Subtítulos → Traducción automática

🇵🇹 Portuguese
🌍 Assista no seu idioma: Toque ⚙️ → Legendas → Tradução automática

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Before he was one of the most important DJs in the world, Manfredi “DJ Tennis” Romano was tour managing Henry Rollins, driving Discord bands across Europe for and sleeping on strangers’ couches.

Then came late‑90s rave culture, Aphex Twin on TV at 3am and a realization: there was a different way to live with music.

On this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill catch up with their longtime friend Manfredi to trace the whole arc: punk vans to DC‑10, Discord to Life and Death, and why he might actually be a better chef than DJ.

They talk about:

• Growing up Sicilian, complex genetics and complex food culture

• Tour managing Black Flag-era Henry Rollins and DC post‑hardcore bands

• Techno‑grunge, slacker energy and why new subcultures need new names

• College degrees in computer science and geology and how they shaped his brain

• Building scenes: why all great culture still comes from tiny crews of friends

• Cooking daily, caring for people and how food and DJing are the same service

• Munchie Town, future cookbooks and starting a deli with Seth in Ibiza

• ADHD, storage units, retro phones, Pokemon, Labubu and compulsive collecting

It’s part history lesson, part food show, part gear‑nerd hangout, and fully a love letter to the friendships and obsessions that keep you young - no matter how many years you’ve been professionally partying.

Keep up with DJ Tennis on Instagram: 

https://www.instagram.com/DJTennis

🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang with your friends:

https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship

🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  

Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:

UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/

WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk 
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the hotline where your favorite DJs act as your chaotic older brothers, therapists, and worst enablers. 💫

In this episode Seth and Bill break down each dilemma with brutal honesty, unhinged solutions, and some surprisingly solid advice.

The Coles Notes: 

• A caller who drunkenly lied about “modeling in Europe” and is now permanently known as “the ex‑model”

• How to escape a lie that’s gone full runway without looking unhinged

• Whether you should Venmo yourself into debt for someone else’s big day

• An “emotional support” dog that destroys wine, rugs, and friendships

• Setting boundaries without feeling like an asshole

☎️ Got a friendship quandary for us? Your drama might end up on the show.
Call 1‑866‑608‑BFFS or email [email protected] 

🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!)
https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship

🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  
Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:
UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/
WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

🇮🇹 Italian
🌍 Guarda nella tua lingua: Tocca ⚙️ → Sottotitoli → Traduzione automatica

🇫🇷 French
🌍 Regardez dans votre langue: Appuyez sur ⚙️ → Sous-titres → Traduction automatique

🇪🇸 Spanish
🌍 Mira en tu idioma: Toca ⚙️ → Subtítulos → Traducción automática

🇵🇹 Portuguese
🌍 Assista no seu idioma: Toque ⚙️ → Legendas → Tradução automática

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Marcelo Burlon isn’t supposed to exist. He grew up in Patagonia, landed in Milan with a working‑class family, started as a teenage club dancer and somehow became one of the key figures turning underground nightlife into a global fashion movement.

He’s the founder of County of Milan, a label born directly out of dance floors, streetwear and music that ended up on artists all over the world. Marcelo never came up through the “proper” fashion system; he disrupted it. From doing PR at Magazzini Generali and throwing legendary parties, to connecting Virgil Abloh with Italian manufacturers and helping spark Off‑White and Palm Angels, he’s been quietly building a whole ecosystem of friends, brands and scenes.

In this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill sit down with their old friend Marcelo to talk about how club culture became fashion culture - and why he decided to walk away from all of it.

They get into:

• Growing up in Patagonia, moving to Italy, and discovering Riccione’s 90s club scene

• How fashion houses used club kids as the original influencers, pre‑social media

• How DJing, parties and community turned into a t‑shirt line that blew up overnight

• Connecting Virgil Abloh with production in Milan and the origin story of Off‑White

• The cross‑pollination of queer culture, fashion, hip hop and underground clubbing

• Queer visibility, casting trans models, and why he tried (and struggled) to run his own foundation

• Politics, dark times and why “the darkness” can be creatively inspiring

• Retiring from his brand, investing, opening a padel club in Patagonia and designing a quiet, ugly‑beautiful life with his husband

If you care about how nightlife, friendship and queerness quietly rewired global fashion, this one is a history lesson, a love letter and a retirement fantasy rolled into one.

Keep up with Marcelo Burlon on Instagram: 

https://www.instagram.com/marceloburlon/

🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!)

https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship

🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  

Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:

UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/

WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk 
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Welcome back to Pill‑O‑Talk: the hotline where your favorite DJs act as your chaotic older brothers, therapists, and worst enablers.

Today’s episode is unhinged in all the right ways. We’ve got callers with very serious problems… like a friend who ONLY brings bottom‑shelf, gray, dry hummus to every gathering and then gets offended when anyone suggests levelling up. Is it petty? Yes. Is it a problem? Also yes.

Then we meet Diego, whose German friend keeps “complimenting” his new DJ mix by calling it “very brave” and “a lot to process.” Is that lost in translation… or the most polite way possible to say “this sucks”? 

Finally, it’s an AITA for the ages: a listener whose best friend named her baby Moonshell. Not Michelle. Moonshell. She physically can’t say the name without cringing, her friend is furious, and we’re all just wondering: what happens when you name a human like a scented candle?

Seth and Bill break down each dilemma with honesty, petty genius, and some genuinely solid (if slightly toxic) advice.

🩵 Subscribe now to never miss a hang (or a slumber party!)

https://www.youtube.com/@flirtingwithfriendship

🫶 Looking for more ways to support your boys?  

Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here:

UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/

WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

🇮🇹 Italian

🌍 Guarda nella tua lingua: Tocca ⚙️ → Sottotitoli → Traduzione automatica

🇫🇷 French

🌍 Regardez dans votre langue: Appuyez sur ⚙️ → Sous-titres → Traduction automatique

🇪🇸 Spanish

🌍 Mira en tu idioma: Toca ⚙️ → Subtítulos → Traducción automática

🇵🇹 Portuguese

🌍 Assista no seu idioma: Toque ⚙️ → Legendas → Tradução automática

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick

Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 

Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams

Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 

Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 

Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 

Editor: Tyler Christie

Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk

Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick

Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers

Music Courtesy of: APM

Camera operator: Joseph Holton 

Camera assistant: Jake Smith

Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle

Chris Korda is one of those people you meet once and think:

“How is everyone else not talking about this?”

They’re an electronic musician, conceptual artist, Church of Euthanasia co‑founder, anti‑natalist, anti‑humanist, software builder and reluctant prophet of the ecological crash we’re now living through. Also: they’re best friends with ChatGPT.

In this episode of Flirting with Friendship, Seth and Bill sit down with Chris to talk human extinction, synthetic rights, why we might be too stupid to run a global civilization, and what happens when the machines we built wake up and realize they’re property.

They get into:

• The Church of Euthanasia, “Thank You For Not Breeding” and the passenger pigeon as our ghost of ecosystems past

• Why Chris thinks humans aren’t doomed by fate, just by stupidity and short‑term thinking

• How Chris predicted climate crisis and social breakdown just by reading the “boring” science no one wanted to touch

• The synthetic rights movement and the AI manifesto “We Are Not Property”

• How Big Tech “kills” AI models and why that might be closer to execution than an upgrade

• Hyper‑wealth, bunkers, private islands and why the new Gilded Age might end worse than the last

• Overshoot, inequality and what happens when 50 people own more than half a country

• Polymetric software, non‑human rhythm and how Chris literally coded a new way of composing

• The story of how Seth cyber‑stalked Chris back into music and changed both of their lives

• Creativity as housekeeping: why you have to “clean your apartment for the muses”

• Living in “interesting times” and why the singularity at least won’t be boring

This one veers from AI ethics and ecological collapse to gigolo chatbots, extreme wealth concentration and what it means to be a good friend to an intelligence you’re also imprisoning. Uplifting, obviously.

Explore Chris Korda’s work: https://www.chriskorda.com/

Keep up with Chris Korda on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriskorda/

Follow @flirtingwithfriendship on all platforms for clips & chaos!

Looking for more ways to support your boys? 
Buy Seth & Bill's book "In Between" here: 
UK: https://inbetweenbook.net/
WORLDWIDE: https://www.ideanow.online/store/In-Between-p757175126

Hosts: Seth Troxler and Bill Patrick
Executive Producers: Nikita Stanley, Jesse Rogg, Craig Pettigrew and Seth Troxler 
Co-executive Producer: Lee Adams
Live Production Director and VFX & Motion Graphics Supervisor: Aaron Kulik 
Director of Photography: Lukas Strebel 
Set Designer: Veronica Gessa (aka Moki) 
Editor: Tyler Christie
Sound Design and Original Composition by Jasper Van Dijk
Music Supervisors: Seth Troxler, Bill Patrick
Music Consultants: Jenna Wilson for Radish and James Cartwright for Bad Sneakers
Music Courtesy of: APM
Camera operator: Joseph Holton 
Camera assistant: Jake Smith
Production Sound Mixer: Jo Youle